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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So i was looking another project after i finished my seat cowl and i stumbled onto the RFID Keyles Ignition over on the Custom Fighters. Looks simple enough so im doing it. To me the ignition on the X1 is very unsafe. The ignition cylinder is right out in the open staring you in the face and shows the world that even a 5 year old could hot wire this bike and take off. So i bought some parts off Fleabay which came to a total of $30. The relay and RFID circuit board will go under the seat and the ignition cylinder will be replaced by the RFID antenna. So now instead of using your key. you will have a little key fob that you simply swipe near the gauges and your ignition turns on. then you start the bike and go. Nobody will be able to start the bike unless they have the key fob. the parts will be here early next week and i will install it very soon after with pictures so you guys can see. what do you think?
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Like all devices weather they be key or electronic, they never put a emergency get you home "THINGIE" in the system for when they FAIL !!!
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thats when you put in an emergency mechanical rocker switch that connects the 2 leads to your ignition so in the event that it does fail, you have a mechanical bypass to the system and you can start the bike.
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Koz5150
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It doesn't get much simpler than this...



http://www.jpcycles.com/product/383-216

The average person would have no idea this is even possible...

(Message edited by koz5150 on February 23, 2012)
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Humm, add a can of matte black to hind the button.
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A small hole that you cover saves you $$.$$, which is OLD SCHOOL ...
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Cecil1
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mikethediabetic Do you have any more info? A link? This sounds really interesting. I've been trying to think of something to do with My S-1 ignition switch.
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes its pretty simple really. here are the parts i bought.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250681401280?ssPageName=ST RK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1066wt_11 39
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140333447156?ssPageName=ST RK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2362wt_11 63
its just power into the RFID, the the RFID into the relay, then the relay to the 2 ignition wires. like i said, it will be here monday/tuesday, should have everything up and running by the end of the week. i will post pics and wireing diagrams if people are interested.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine's had a $2 rocker switch on it for years, hidden behind the windscreen.

I've also toyed with Koz's idea to get rid of the starter switch just to mess with people. A hole and a nail work just the same.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kyrocket:

You are catching on to the OLD SCHOOL stuff !!!

(Message edited by buellistic on February 24, 2012)
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could you post a pdf of your idea how the two wire into the bike etc i would love to do it but need it spelled out for me?
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Kyrocket
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2012 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well crap, I should be. I've only torn it down to the crank pin twice now.







I don't want to hear you've got 1,234,555 miles as of last ride and haven't torn the top end off!!!
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Phelan
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Years ago in a '67 Chevy long-wide I ditched the ignition for a rocker switch and push button.
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Buellathebuzzer
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just want to point out one thing about your backup design. You criticize the key location and how easy it is to hot wire the bike, yet it seems your willing to put a switch on the bike that essentially makes hot wiring easier? Or am I missing something?
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Tutte
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2012 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Mike,
look at this set.
http://motogadget.com/elektrik/rfid-zundschloss-m- lock/bilder-videos.html
Maybe this is other option for you.
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S1owner
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2012 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tutte i have been looking at them but for cost it is about 250 more for the basic setup then Mikes but very cool
Mike can you draw up a simple how you are wiring these two together i would like to do it also
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Mikethediabetic
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2012 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok guys, i got everything in and it works perfectly. when i get a chnce i will post pictures and a diagram of how it is wired. its very simple.
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