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Wolk625
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

so i bought my x1 with a Hypercharger installed and am looking to put something else on it. you guys have any preference towards the elbow- style (forcewinder) or the round- style?
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Fahren
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No matter which you prefer and end up with, don't forget to re-route your breathers, if not already done.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like my ham can.
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Rjn
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

got the carbon elbow style with big air filter on my M2. Looks good, IMHO, and works good.
easy to clean and maintain.
But then i also love the carbon style ham can,
find what you like, and as fahren said re- route and maybe adjust your air to fuel mixture for good performance.
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Foximus
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your best bet is a small velocity stack that will be fitted to a free flowing intake.


I find most motorcycle applications incredibly restrictive (and really the options are limited) I run a flame arrestor (air filter) from my race jetski. These are about the top of the line thing you can run. There was a huge improvement when I switched over to running mine with a velocity stack.


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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Forcewinder on my M2 and I like the extra leg room it provides (I am 6'7" so that is important to me)

My S3 has a race kit carbon fiber ham can and that is really okay because it doesn't stick out too much and it looks so good I can live with it.
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Wolk625
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah probably what bugs me most about the hypercharger is its so big it rubs my knee when i ride.. that velocity stack looks pretty sick.

As it sits now...

http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k214/wolkinator/?action=view&current=CIMG1718.jpg
I still gotta find a buyer for this thing so i got some time to mull over what i want to replace it with. leaning a little towards a forcewinder or a k&n cone but that stack really threw me a curveball - i like that too.



(Message edited by wolk625 on January 16, 2012)
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Dutch_x1
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take a look at performance machine aircleaners.

I have one on my x1 an love it : )

(Message edited by Dutch x1 on January 16, 2012)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Appearance-wise I have always loved the old crooked ham can. I tried sitting on someone else's bike that had that style installed.
Whacked my knee right away.
I am 6'3" so my only choice was the forcewinder.

My only gripes with the forcewinder was the installation instructions were pretty bad:
It said to REMOVE the intake support bracket.
You know... the one thing that SUPPORTS the intake? ha ha ha.

Oh and the breather seems to have been deliberately designed to distill the vapors out and dribble them upon your right shoe.
I run my breather to a hose leading to the street now.
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Mikebonn
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just bought a forcewinder type intake from harleybigboreintakes.com, but it came without instructions. Anyone ever put one of these on? Also, did you have to re-jet?
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Foximus
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depending on your location and altitude,

you should most likely be between 185 and 190 main jet, and 45 pilot. What are your other mods?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fox,

More detail on the idler pulley on your tuber please. I've long thought about doing that.

Some close up pictures, or a source for the bracket?
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Foximus
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its an XB pulley and bracket. An XB runs the bracket facing rearward, and the belt over the pully, since I was running the belt through the wishbone bracket, I threw it in a mill and deepened the channel at about a 35* angle.

Then I ran two holes vertical for mounting bolts, with the heads counter sunk about 1/2".

As for the Fork legs themselves, I forget the measurement, but I cut them, and welded in more, extending them something like .55"

Drilled and tapped vertically into the mounting block.

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Sdecp
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fox:

Nice!
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Mikebonn
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Depending on your location and altitude, you should most likely be between 185 and 190 main jet, and 45 pilot. What are your other mods?"

My bike is bone stock. According to the manual it has a 195 main and 42 pilot.

I also noted that the carb drain hose plugs into the stock airbox, but I see no way to do it with this kit. Should that matter?

Here's a pic from their website of what the kit looks like on a Harley.


Sample pic from harleybigboreintakes.com
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can mod the factory snorkel like "I" Did "the econowinder"


econ winder
If you read the small caption I cut the tube at the red line so i didn't lose to much length because these engines from the factory are tuned for the length of the snorkel. I put the I.A.T sensor where the blue circle is.

Here is the round canister intake.









I ended up getting a used forcewinder elbow for a carb model and i just needed a different gasket to cover the teardrop shaped air jet recess in the intake mating surface.



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Lander_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 03:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My "home made"airbox cover with the forcewinder

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/618533.jpg
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/618534.jpg
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/618535.jpg
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/618536.jpg
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Kilroy
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Preybird - do you still have the round air cleaner? And if so do you want to part with it? (Sorry about the thread hijack)

Kilroy
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Fox!
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Foximus
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks real good Lander...

Tell me how many 12 Oclock'ers you do? hahaha.
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Wolk625
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i don't mind the hijack this stuff is all gold to me thanks guys!
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may still have it in a box. If not my brother has it. I will have to look into it. I think i even have a carbon fiber disk cover for it from American Sport Bike.

I found a pic of the econowinder installed on my bike



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