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Triman023
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Been reading an old road test of the S2.
http://webspace.webring.com/people/st/tgroghan/bue ll/article/1995s2.html

In this article the author says the S2 has overly retarded ignition timing, he advanced the ignition "a few degrees" and got a 3 HP improvement. It sounds to me that he would also get pinging. Is this bogus or an easy way to get more power?
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if the motor was assembled with the timing off spec, and it needed to be advanced I would think so, else probably end up pinging as you expect
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Harleyelf
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is not advisable to assume that the factory did everything right on every bike. It'd mean more if he said he looked at the timing mark while setting the timing and it was wrong. I think he just tweaked it without looking, in which case if he got an improvement it was out of time when he got it.
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Triman023
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The article says that he did multiple dyno runs until the timing was optimized. Sounds like an pre production model that was off time to begin with.
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bottom line here is you should check your timing even on a new bike ...

Checked a friends engine timing and the timing was so slow that the timing mark was going out of the timing plug hole(static timing) which was retared(slow) ...

Set the timing mark just coming into the timing plug hole and my friend was amazed how good his engine then ran ...

(Message edited by buellistic on December 08, 2011)
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Sportyeric
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too cheap to pay for dyno runs, I set my timing so it pings on regular, then burn high test.
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