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Thejosh
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just wondering if anyone knew where to get the rubber inserts for the forward muffler mount on an X1, or if the dogbone service bulletin was worth the extra moolah?, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Josh,

P.S. I have checked with the HD dealership and they say that the part is discontinued and suggested I get the service bulletin for the dogbone and VR relocater, but it was like $170
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want a copy of the last up date on the front muffler mount, just PM me for a copy ...
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

some say the dog bone is worth it, i have 30k on my original and no issues.
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Blks1l
Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Twin cycles still has the isolators for the early style mounts.
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Thejosh
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Twin cycles? What is the address, tried to google but came up with bunch of other stuff.
Thanks,

Josh
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Blks1l
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are a sponsor on this board www.twinmotorcycles.nl They are in Europe, so shipping is high, I ordered several extra sets last time I ordered to help drop the cost of the freight, then sold them here for what I had into them.
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Thejosh
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome! Thanks for the help!

Josh
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Guell
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

josh, if you want to go in on a couple im willing to order with you
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Nwrider
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Id get in on that to help with freight. I need a pair as well.

Previous owner left out the spacer and the bolt was loose. It vibrated almost all the way through the sleeve. I made a spacer and haven't had any real issues but might as well replace them since one is moderately chowdered up.

PM me if you want to share some shipping costs.

(Message edited by nwrider on October 03, 2011)
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Gmaan03
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our shop has been moving the last few weeks if you guys can get one of these sets. I made three and they work perfect!

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Gmaan03
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can make up more, give me a few weeks.
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Guell
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That looks like the new y mount, I thought we were talking about the original mount
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Blks1l
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gmaan03 I would be interested in possibly 2 sets of those sets for the Y-mount when they are available as backups.
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Thejosh
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking bout the original, if anyone wants one I will be trying to order them in the next couple days.

Josh
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Blks1l
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I ordered from Twin it was suprisingly quick as well, just using their postal service, maybe a week. My credit card did charge me a small fee for the foreign transaction, I think it was less then 50 cents. Great service from them though.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)






This what we're talking about? If so do you know a ballpark figure for them. I'd probably be interested in one.
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Blks1l
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I bought 5 sets , and sold 3 for 20 a set including the postage.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uugh, that's about what I was figuring. I'd be in for one if you could get it at or about that.
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Thejosh
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are the ones!!! Trying to get a price from twin cycles and will get back with everyone.

Josh
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Shapem2
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 2 sets in Rochester ny. One set has a used spacer with a scuff. Both rubber sets unused. Email me for pics if interested. I can mail tomorrow. These are leftover and came from twin in Netherlands. I also have the original L mount. $20 plus shipping is about what I paid to get them here. Will sell both and accept offer on the mount. Jshaper@Rochester.rr.com
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Gmaan03
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are the rear mounts?
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are Front !!! Rear are Bigger !Get a parts book!
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

these are easily made at home.
get, borrow, a hole saw with an inner dimention a smidge larger than the bushing hole. find some dense rubber and cut out some "doughnuts", then stack them togeather to get the proper thicknes.
drill the center hole and install.
i just did this and its working great at a cost of 0 bucks.
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh yea.........
and large area washers on either side of rubber.
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Blks1l
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Making them sounds like my time is worth more then the 20 bucks to buy them, unless I allready happened to have a peice of rubber sitting around, then still just a maybe. That may last longer though.
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Thejosh
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2011 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in the process of making them out of polyurethane spacers, kinda subscribing to the philosophy of mounting that thing as rigid as I can get it.

Josh
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thejosh, downside of that is that the vibes gotta go somewhere. the rubber mounts dampened them.
my fear is that the header studs might get to much stress and break.
i could be wrong but a little parinoia goes a long way.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to worry, Psykick. The header studs are not subject to lateral stress from the muffler mount. They're only hurt if something tries to pull them out, like a broken isolator or a boot to the air cleaner box. What happens if you fix the muffler rigidly to both the frame and motor is the welds on the header itself fail and it cracks into pieces. Little sections of curved head-pipe with nice square corners. I have one I can post photos of if you wish to see it.
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the info. iv been sweating the studs breaking for a while now. used to work on radial aircraft engines and exh. stud replacement was a constant job.
having the header crack sounds like less fun tho.
all the shaking n rattling of a big motor is sure worth it.
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Harleyelf
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first header was badly welded at the factory. If you bolted it up firmly to the exhaust studs, the mounting holes didn't line up. I set all the bolts in place with the header loose and then tightened them evenly. Worked for about a month. Then the header cracked and disintegrated.
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