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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2011 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Says on it,s side 32633-96 QSE 6800RPM 9709 REV on top says Buell Lightning seriess.What years does it apply to.
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is a HARLEY-DAVIDSON Part Number ...

It fits a 1996 and later XL1200(until they changed the plug in pin numbers so you have to count them) ...

It will fit a BUELL if the plug in pin numbers are the same ...
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LaFayette:#32693-96 First 1996 Lightning Only In The Tubers Then in 1997,98 used on Lightning and Thunderbolt #32680-96Y race New race #N13o6.G.I need latter for my S2T because it is now Thunderstormed Cams pistons jugs heads.For correct Timing.Or Twin fire ign Right?
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And will be using Factory Race Header and race Muff.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went with a selectable ignition:



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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wilson:Is that Screemin Eagle part #32654-98?Do you have a larger pic of top?
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's all I have sorry Butch. But yes, the pics are of the same part.
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ebutch and BUELLers:

IGN. MODULES:

LIGHTING COMPONENT MODULE -

(do not know the H-D PN) BUELLschitte PN N036.9A $113.50 Fits 95 to 96 S2 & S2T

RPM cut out is set at 6800 RPM

For RACE Application Only

RACING IGNITION MODULE -

H-D PN 32633-96 96 on XL1200 $115.00(sams as BUELL PRO SERIES PN 32680-96Y $85.00}

RPM cut out is set at 6800 RPM

BUELL "IFO" states:

It fits 97 to 00 M2 models / 96-98 S1 models / 98 S1W models / 97 to 98 S3 & S3T models ...

Used by many PACE/FUSA participants ...

Race proven advance curve that allows engine to REV to 68 RPM ...

For RACE Application Only

IGNITION MODULE -

(DO NOT KNOW H-D PN) BUELL IGNITION MODULE PN 91438-01Y $114.95

Fits 01 ad later M2 models

Increases REV limits of stock module

Maintains low and mid range precision of original module

THE "BEST MODULE" IS -

H-D PN 32654-98

Made by DYNATEK out of CALIFORNIA

Very, very tunable with DIP switch's for
IGN. CURVE ADVANCE, RPM, can set for duel fire or single fire ignition,VOES ON or OFF and a LED lite for static timing

IF IT WILL PLUG IN TO YOU MODULE RECEIVER IT WILL WORK !!!

(Message edited by buellistic on September 27, 2011)
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LaFayette: THANK-YOU the numbers did not jive to me and was afraid Sticker on top was fake but numbers Jive with your information!!!
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YaHoo it will Work with my Thunder Stormed S2T engine and piece meal race package!!!!!!!
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1313
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All this talk about ignition modules reminds me of a little experiment that Gary Valine and I did on the Buell Motorcycle Company dyno. Since it happened 13 years ago I'm guessing all parties involved are no longer concerned...or at least look back on it now and laugh it off...

The previous winter I had replaced my S2's flywheels with the lightened flywheels from the S1, installed Thunderstorm heads and pistons, the complete race exhaust and 3" thick air filter. Since the winter before saw the Lightning cams, I now had completely Thunderstormed my S2's engine.

I had asked Gary about the 6,800 rpm race ignition module and asked if it was worth the expense with my setup. His response was "I have a race ignition module in my area, bring it back over to the dyno someday and we can do a comparison." or thereabouts.

So the stars aligned and I had a few moments of free time as well did Gary. I take my S2 to the dyno room and Gary puts it up on the dyno. We run the baseline with the 6,200 rpm S1 ignition module I run to this day. All is well, numbers are recorded. Next step, we swap out to the 6,800 rpm race ignition module. We're getting ready to run this setup and who should walk into the dyno room, but Erik. My heart sank thinking I was just about to receive my walking papers (working on personal stuff was a big no-no...) and Erik inquisitively asked Gary what he was up to. Cool as a cucumber Gary responds, "I just wanted to see how a converted bike responds to the race ignition module." Gary's answer - which, really, if you think about it was 100% true - satisfied Erik. Erik left the dyno room and Gary and I continued with our little experiment.

WHEW!!!

The results of that experiment, you ask? Peak hp and peak torque were no different between the 2 ignition modules on my Thunderstormed S2. Since it made no difference in my peak numbers, and I've always treated the S2's throttle like an off-on switch, I couldn't justify the expense of the 6,800 rpm race ignition module. My thought was that it would just cut engine life for me. Of the 117,000 miles currently on my S2, only 81,000 of them have been with this engine combination - but I still feel I made the right choice by not going with the 6,800 rpm race ignition module.

Of course, if your riding style can take advantage of the extra rpm's in each gear, your assessment might be different.

One data point - and where'd my 2 cents go?
1313
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Brankin!!! My concern is Right Timing Curve for thunder Stormed S2T engine.RPMS I Know Stress the engine I don,t even like to dyno to me had that done at 69,000 mile on S2T it tested 60 hp and 68 ft pounds @ 5200RPMS.To me I had to know but do not like to put my engine to that much stress but had to know It was Free .Great Story Our Creator Erik is not all work and no play.And Good men do have privileges!!!!!

(Message edited by ebutch on September 28, 2011)
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BUELLers:

PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS ARE UP-DATES IN:

CORRECT TIMING

Headers

Muffler

Cams

Valves(springs, collars, and keepers)

Flowing of Intake and Exhaust Ports

Carburetor or Throttle Body "SIZE"

Richer jetting or Richer Fuel Mapping

Gearing

AND last but not lease the IGNITION MODULE !!!

You have to tune for each of these !!!

IMHO if you just plug in a HOT IGNITION MODULE with out tuning for the ADDITIONAL RPM that it gives, you are just wasting your money on said module !!!

"BUT" a completely TUNABLE PN 32654-98, IMHO would be worth the money !!!

"THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS"
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

B-nutz, that part number 32654-98 looks exactly like my Dyna2000 ignition, same switches, same meanings to the switch positions. The right-most switch position explanation is obscured, does it have Single-Fire choice there?
That's really the reason I like this ignition, it makes the idle sound "cooler."

There's a race ignition on ebay for $28 now, that's a pretty good deal.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It,s a good thing to belong to the BadWeb because it,s the same thing I have!!!!Though you would never know it comparing Numbers of each.!!!!But this site is full of the WISE!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buell-2000-M2-Cyclo ne-1200-Ignition-Module-ECU-ECM-11250-miles-/27082 4622974?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item 3f0e67cb7e#ht_500wt_975
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Pash
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wilson:Is that Screemin Eagle part #32654-98?Do you have a larger pic of top?

Will this do? Bottom one is the "Race" unit to show the additional part numbers. The Screaming Eagle unit is a 32654-98

Ignition 1


Ignition 2


Ignition 3
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Interesting reading here - http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/16587.html and here - http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/10398.html?1009646764
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, yeah, read them both 20 times. I bought it on 'principle', not for increased performance.
Still can't see whether right-most switch is Single/Dual fire, but will assume so. Didn't know about the Screamin' Eagle version. Cool!
So there's three 'racy' module choices for my Y2K M2; Buell, Dyna2000, or Harley.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't remember if it is or not Jayvee...It'll be awhile before I get back to the garage. Just got back from overseas and catching up with civvie job now, then military weekend this weekend.
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Pash
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is the Single Fire / Dual Fire switch

Instructions for the Dyna (same as the 32654-98) are here:

http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/downloads/instruct /D2K-HD1E.pdf
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This



+ HSR42 Mikuni S2 bottom-end-Rebuilt.That,s the way I will go till I can afford more.
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