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Andros
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it possible to lower the x1 fork?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can lower them a but by dropping the clamps down but not too much.
The steering angle of a stocker is reeeeally steep as it is.
You could make it unstable at speed.

I looked up the rake angle specs for the X1:
23 Degrees

Looked up rake angle for 2001 CBR600:
24 Degrees

Be careful. A little goes a long way on a stubby little bike like the X1.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have been running my 1997 S3T front end which "i" lower 1 inch for years now ...

If "i" had X1 "i" would do the same to it ...
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

like said, drop the trees down some, all it'll cost is a little bit of time
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Snowbees
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you might have to raise/change handlebars, i used risers with my renthal bars.
i think the tops of the forks are only parallel for a short distance allowing a max rise of about 3/4".
No problems with speed/handling for me. i also lowered the rear.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen Buell forks pushed through about 3" before
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is a example of extreme suspension tuning !!!

(Message edited by buellistic on September 19, 2011)
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've lowered mine about an inch. Puts my crotch a bit closer to the ground too, which for a stubby-legged dude like me, is a good thing.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then your not from TEXAS originally ???
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, but I got here as fast as I could!
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"i" like the Houston area and my son lives in Deer Park ...

Visit every chance "i" get !!!
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lower the triples approximately the same amount the rear end is lowered. The X1 already had the most aggressive steering geometry of all the tubers, so there's not as much margin there for messing around. "I" personally wouldn't drop the front more than 1/4" over the rear.

I'm a shorty too, and my S1 is raised 1" in the back. I'd rather have sharper steering and better ground clearance than have both feet on the ground. It sure makes it easier when it comes to riding other bikes once you're used to having one solid foot on the ground. I've still managed to grind the end of my kickstand off.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X-1 a aggressive angle steering head.But works Great on my S2T.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And how about lowering the fork by shorten the lower fork tubes!?? (i thought that he meant that!)
So pull the lower tube out of the shaft mount (or whatever you call it),and shorten the lower tubes and press/assemble everything back together!

is that already done? ,and what is the outcome of it?
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Andros
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx everyone! I do not want the legs protrude through the triple because of my handlebars. Like Brother Buell suggested is taking the fork apart and chopping the fork an option?
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Jramsey
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So pull the lower tube out of the shaft mount (or whatever you call it),and shorten the lower tubes and press/assemble everything back together!"

Not a good idea.

Better to disassemble the forks and modify the spring collar and the spring itself.}
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

idea, it'll cost a little, but it should work

$25 Pingel lowering strap.
Used often by drag racers (i have one on my S3), takes about five minutes to install and lets you compress the front end as much as you want
(example, mine is compressed to where it shows about 2.5" of travel, it actually has less than that)

Have had my strap on the race bike for about four years and no issues at all, no leaky seals or anything

pingelonline.com
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A spacer can be made for the fork cartridge to prevent it from extending completely. It can be made of aluminum or pvc and is an easy fix. Make sure the cartridge nut is red-locktited when assembled. Sometimes the end of the cartridge shaft/nut has to be lightly filed for removal. A suspension shop can lower the fork permanently for around $150. They usually cut down and re-thread the cartridge shaft.
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Andros
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 04:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey rick. Thanx thats what i wanted to hear =)
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes it,s good to know that it is that easy to do!

Thanks
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