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Msr203
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in central pa and I want to take my riding to the next level with out become a stastistic. How do you get involved in track day?
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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Find a race track go to there website and see what they offer. Or see if the state you are in has a sport bike club that goes to the track. Or when your at the motorcycle dealer or store see if they have a race school class.

(Message edited by preybird1 on July 30, 2011)
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here in tx at least, more than a few of the tracks are automotive tracks that allow the motorbike trackday clubs on their off days.
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Mbsween
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can take a look here or look for local organizations at the tracks closest to you.

I've ridden Pocono and Mid Ohio, but you're probably closer to Beaver Run. I prefer Mid Ohio over Pocono, it's a bigger track and a better organized imho.

Remember to get decent gear and it helps if you can truck/trailer the bike. Although I've seen plenty of people ride to an event. It's nice to have a shady place as it will be hot out there.

Track days are a ton of fun and a great way to accomplish what you're trying to do. You can also look to a school if you want focused attention. Look for Keith Code's superbike school. They go to New Jersey which isn't that far
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Msr203
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for your help guys mbsween how much do track days cost if your a member of nespa?
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Preybird1
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To get on the track here it's 150.00-200.00 for a full day of open track day. But here you can pay $25 for the Utah sport bike association membership and get on the track and take the advanced riders training or the super advanced rider training for $175.00. But you must have previously taken and passed the ART class before you can ride the SuperART class. My biggest hurdle was getting the correct riding gear to be allowed onto the track. I finally just broke down and bought a 1 piece race suit new riding boots and a borrowed pair of gloves Thanks to badwebber "little buggles" Thanks mike.
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Preybird1
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the utah link.......I am linking it so you guys who don't do tracks days and are interested in doing some. Just look over required equipment and gear you need to ride and Race!

http://www.utahsba.com/schools/
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gear will cost you approx. $1,000 on the cheap side and approx 2,500 for all out creature comfort.
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Msr203
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I got a set of boots gloves and two pc teknic suit from my friend for $170! Do they allow 2 pc suits on the track?
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Skntpig
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. Now you just need to prep your bike. You can search here or google it. Most track day companies will have a list of required things to do.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking tire warmers, generator, suit, boots, gloves, and any mods to your bike as well.

Hope you have a ball.
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

to the OP: K.I.S.S.

keep it short and simple.

you don't need tire warmers to do a track day.

you don't need to safety wire your whole bike to do a track day.

you can rent or borrow leathers, gloves, boots if you do not have them.

you'll probably need to put masking tape on your headlight and taillight, turn signals.

go ride and have fun. track days are *not* racing. yes, you can go fast, but it's a HUGE difference between them.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You MUST check with the organizations. 2 piece are usually allowed for entry level - BUT virtually all organizations require a full-circumference zipper.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mid Ohio (Sportbike Track Time maybe?) required full zip together two piece suits for the novice class, but in two track days that I did, never actually checked. I showed up both times with first gear heavy armored textile pants and long jacket, but never could zip the two together. They did tech inspection on the bike (pretty thoroughly), but not the gear.

That was for the novice class. Intermediate would probably have been fussier, and trying to do expert in that outfit would have made me stick out like a sore thumb.

(For what that's worth...)

For what that's wroth...
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Fahren
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very good organization, with a great intro offer: NESBA (NE Sport Bike Ass'n). They do tracks "local" to you. More Yamaha-oriented, but not at all exclusively. $25/year membership, $95-195 per day, depending on the track. Free trial offer. Good (free) instruction.

http://www.nesba.com/Info/Member.htm
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here the novice can wear 2x pair of jeans and gloves and boots and jacket. The higher speed courses require 1.2-1.6 mm thick leather one piece suit gloves and boots.
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Msr203
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah I'm defintly going to join NESBA... I want to take it to the next level and have fun, race someday but not now so Geoff your job is safe.... For now
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the time you guys get two laps on your tires, I'm going to be ahead of you by at least 25 seconds.

Warm tires at the start can get you into the top 10 on most tracks.

Just sayin...
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

top ten of what??

you are delusional if you think doing a track day is anything remotely close to a race.

sure, some racers use track days for practice (mainly the racers that don't get paid to do it as a career), and the average joe can go as fast as he or she comfortably and safely pleases, but it is absolutely not racing.

the OP was asking about track days and you suggested budgeting for tire warmers which i discredited as unnecessary.

and now i'd like to add they would likely be a turn off to a would-be first time track day rider due to their added level of expense and complexity because 1) how you gonna use tire warmers without front and rear stands, generator etc. and 2) as a first timer, you really going to need to worry about stuff like that? worry about the riding first!!!
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the track you use does best and average lap times, tire warmers are esential to be up with the best of them at that track. That is what I meant by top 10.

Of course if your only at the novice level, what's the point. However, it doesn't take very many times on the track to move into the intermediate level. After a couple of track days, this is the way to step it up on the track.

Yes, you need a way to power your tire warmers. Most veterans at the track have a generator, and it's a good bet your neighbor will allow your extension cord into his.

Gotta love the name calling
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was at one of the riding schools trying to learn proper technical riding skills and this jack ass comes flying around me like we are racing on a cbr 1000rr and immediately low sides into the very next corner. So he ruined his bike, His leathers and his helmet. And they had to send the rescue truck out to haul the bike back. try and just learn it is not a race.......After that we went into the class room and he was asked to explain what happened. He was accelerating in the corner instead of maintaining throttle. And simply low sided. Then we had a discussion about the right kind of tire and air pressure and heat levels for correct tire grip. We all got to feel the pros tire and it was dam hot! everyone Else's tire wasn't even hot.
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Onespeedpaul
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what name-calling?

please point out where i name-called, because as it stands the fact is: track days are not racing. thinking otherwise is well, delusional. as preybird pointed out above me, thinking that track days are racing is also dangerous.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was top 10 last time I ran at Mid Ohio!

(On a track day. In the novice class. Where there were about 12 of us.)

I couldn't catch CeeJay though, so I guess he will get the factory ride. : )
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