| Author | Message | ||
     01x1buell |
ok my bike runs great within the first hour of riding, then after a while it just does not have the same pep . i got home checked all my numbers everything is good except i did notice that my temp was 192C it was 95 outside today but that just seams a little high for me.. could this be a head temp sensor going bad or what could this be.. thanks for any input | ||
| Nwrider |
Wish I could help Neil... speaking of help.. I am trying to do a tps reset and this is the first time ive used ecm spy... Think I could pick yer brain a little? I lost your #. | ||
| 01x1buell |
whats your number i will call u . | ||
| Nwrider |
pmd ya | ||
| Preybird1 |
Maybe the head temp sensor is going out! I bought a HD oil cap that has the thermometer built into it. To bad its Hd but it works great for real time oil temp checks. Just pop the seat and there it is. | ||
| 01x1buell |
hey preybird how much did that cost and what do i ask for to get that. that would be a great idea .caus emy temp was way to high. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Head temp was 192? | ||
| Kalali |
Oil temp and head temps do not necessarily match and you probably read this on ECMSpy. | ||
| Preybird1 |
I can't remember how much it was. But if you call Hd and get the part number you can go to the link and get 20% off msrp. http://www.lshd1.com/servlet/StoreFront | ||
| Psykick_machanik |
this was from the TPS reset instructions. "Start the engine, let it warm up until an indicated temperature of 320F, and adjust the idle to 1050 RPM and you're done." so 197c is 387f. if its 92f out and your riding stop n go that dosnt sound to high to me. | ||
| Preybird1 |
You will know when the bike is to hot in 95 degree weather and in stop and go traffic when the bike goes into overheat mode and it only fires on every other cylinder. that is when it is to hot. There are more safety features on these bikes than you think. The first time my bike went into this mode i was really freaking out thinking the engine was FUBAR1 | ||
| Eagleman |
I agree with Preybird1 and psykick. Mine went into skip mode 3 times this year, first time it was 105(125 w heat index) the other 2 times it was 97-102. I thought the clutch went because the idle was up and wouldnt drop. If its that hot I try and take the most direct route home with as few lights as possible. My friends has a 99 and I dont believe it has skip mode he said his will ping pop and everything else when its to hot. | ||
| Jkgonzo |
I wonder if this is what mine is doing........As soon as it gets warm (more likely hot) it seems to miss at speed and when I come to a stop the idle is very erratic. Most of the time before the stop light turns changes the idle will settle down. I've changed out both the engine temp and the O2, cleaned the IAT, installed the Buell fan kit, replaced the intake manifold gaskets, plugged the throttle body vacuum port (which was open), I just am getting to my wits end......Tomorrow I'm going to Two_Seasons house and we're going to go through the electrical to see if I have any bad wire issues. If I run the bike hard, it runs great, even if it had been doing this thing it's doing......So when it goes into this 'overheat' mode, what all happens?? Does the bike still run well at speed? If I can't figure it out soon I may be dumping the EFI all together  ........but I would rather not. | ||
| Eagleman |
Mine will run ok as I speed up and get it cooled down. It still will feel like a slight miss here and there till that temp is reached. | ||
| Two_seasons |
If you are riding in slow traffic, and you aren't throwing codes, and your bike is experiencing an extremely deep heat soak, it will run erratic until it's cooled off again. It takes a lot to get it that hot, but trust me, if you are ATGATT and you are hot and uncomfortable, imagine what your engine/tranny must feel like. Simple things first. You have a 4-pin connector in your steering head area (jgonzo's is under the seat) with a rubber plug in it. Rotate that connector so that the lock points to the 12 o'clock position and short the two right pins out with a jumper wire. Your DTC (diagnostic trouble code) is a two-digit number. Place ignition switch to on and kill switch to run. Your engine light in the tach will flash several times, then pause, then flash the first number, then pause, then flash the second number. Make sure you count the flashes, then after the pause, count the second number. This is your DTC code. You may have more than one code stored or none at all. Here are a listing of the DTC's (out of the 99/00 Service Manual for an X1 Lightning... Trouble Code 11===Throttle Position Sensor Trouble Code 12===Oxygen (O2) Sensor Trouble Code 14===Engine Temperature Sensor Trouble Code 15===Intake Air Temp Sensor Trouble Code 16===Battery Voltage Trouble Code 23 and 32=== Front (23) and Rear (32) Fuel Injector Trouble Code 24 and 25===Front Ignition Coil (24) and Rear Ignition Coil (25) Trouble Code 33===Fuel Pump Trouble Code 35===Tachometer Trouble Code 44===Bank Angle Sensor Trouble Codes 52, 53, 54, and 55===ECM Failure Trouble Code 56===Cam Sync Failure Your best friend during all of this exercise is the shop manual for your bike. After each Trouble Code is a wiring diagram that calls out each discrete wire that controls that function and where each connector is located for that circuit. Hope this helps. | ||
| 01x1buell |
can you not just do that with ecmspy?? | ||
| Two_seasons |
Not sure as I don't own ECMspy. I'm old and old school. If I had my way, they'd all still have carb's in them. Back in the day, I could remove a quad-carb'ed Kawasaki, clean them, install them, re-sync them, in about 1.5 hours. | ||
| 01x1buell |
nice i do like carbs as well but the fuel injection is really nice . | ||
| Two_seasons |
Trouble Code 13===Oxygen (O2) Sensor Sorry for the mistake above...Steve | ||
| 01x1buell |
i belive the bike fixed itself it runs great now and there are no codes present | ||
| Psykick_machanik |
you did the "Voodoo Gremlin dance" didnt you?!?! if it worked, its all good baby. Glad to hear. | ||
| 01x1buell |
i guess i did now afv is always between 95 and 102 and i changed nothing. | ||
| Steveford |
Two_Seasons, Does that trick with the data port/count the flashes work on the XBs as well? I thought that was only a Magnet Marelli idea! | ||
| Two_seasons |
Steveford: Not sure if it works with XB. I've only been around one, Fordrox has a Ulysses that I even rode during homecoming, but never got a chance to do any troubleshooting with it. You live not too far from where I grew up, Spring Mount. |
