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S1owner
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hooked up rear led turn signals with no issues. Now I hooked up some on the front and they do nothing and the back stay solid no blinking. The lights I used on the front are not specifically turn signals. Any thoughts?
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not enough load to make the flasher blink. Or the wires are connected wrong. It should blink really fast because they draw like .5-1 amp each blinker and i think the system runs on a 24 amp. Mine blink really fast and i like it that way.....But some states it's illegal to have them flash fast. I have also found that if the blinkers are different brands they may not work together very well. You may need to add load resistors or get an l.e.d. specific turn signal flasher.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need some resistance. That, or the lights don't have a resistor on them at all. Most LED's don't pull enough juice by themselves to let the flasher know to flash. There are several kits out there to remedy this.

http://www.customled.com/products/load_equalizer/l oad_equalizer.htm

Check that out.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a cheaper and quicker fix is to replace your flasher unit with an electronic one from any Auto Zone or other auto store. It plugs in just the same and works great for about $10 to $15. (might even be cheaper, it's been a few years since I replaced mine.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Either add resistance or change your flasher, American Sport Bike sells one for LEDs.
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Spike240sx
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Auto zone sells a flasher relay for $9.99. I dont have the part number available but look closely at them. It says LED right on the flasher itself. Works great.
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S1owner
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys I think I will go the flasher realay way for ten bucks that way I am not adding more to the system and something else to go out. Is it a two prong flasher
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take your original with you. Physically it will match. Should be 3 prong.
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok I have went to every auto parts place including autozone and no luck does not help that no one has a clue of what I. Am talking about. Mine also only has two prongs so the ameican sport bike one is for 98 and up that use 3 prong
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Jim_d
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought a load equalizer from this company...

http://www.badlandsmotorcycleproducts.com/2008/ind ex.html

Told them what Buell I had and the issues I was having and they sent me one out.
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Dex_morgan
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the flasher you need is part # EP 38. Replaced signals on both my Buells (x1 & m2) with LEDs, used this part and everything works fine. They are $9.99 a piece. They are located near the replacement bulbs at Autozone.

Also, make sure you connected the leads to the signals correctly. Switching them can give you a solid and/or solid light.

Hope this helps

(Message edited by dex morgan on June 21, 2011)
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you dex
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S1owner
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dex u sure on EP 38 I can not find that part # any where lots that are close and say led on them. Also can you just skip the ground prong mine is a two prong .
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Dex_morgan
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe they are made by Tridon EP 36 or EP 38 should both work.

IDK about only the two prongs being used. That might be why yours is not functioning properly???
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pre 98 used a two prong flasher
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok found a EP 36 does not work. Looks like I need to use the load equalizer. Any clue where or what color wires I connect to.
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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here are the load equalizers i use and they come from checker\orielly auto parts.













Here are the install instructions also
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Preybird1
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here i forgot a link to there website
http://www.jamstrait.com/products.html
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S1owner
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks alot. I figured it all out. Made my load equalizers cost me under 3 bucks, and found used what looks like your instructions I found online. Everything works. Bought a led rear with integrated turns from Amazon for 35 says for a Duck but works custom made made my fronts. Just have to make a side mount license bracket tomorrow.
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