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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, this is new territory for me because (knock wood) I have yet to blow a transmission.

Getting a friends M2 roadworthy, it's his first bike, he just got it, and it's...rough. Everything is adjusted properly, I did a fluid change to put the right stuff in the primary (smelled like it had gear lube in it), took it for a short ride and the issue I had hoped the fluid change would fix...is still there.

Pull clutch at a standstill, put it in first, you get what sounds like the "first gear clunk". OK. Let the clutch out slowly, the bike will start moving like it should...then all of a sudden you get a huge CLUNK and it lurches into gear.

First gear only. 2-5 are working fine. Shifting is fine. Neutral is as easy to find as any of my tubers. Its just first gear is...wonky.

I guess I'm glad it has a trapdoor transmission...but any guesses from the collective? Am I looking at a trans rebuild, or could it just be a shift fork, or something...else?
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is an internal adjustment of position on the linkage that operates the drum, could also be the loose pin / cam syndrome ( pins get loose and the shift cam snap ring works loose.

that or the dogs on the first pair are rounded

my x1 does that once in a while

have you had the primary cover off
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2011 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not yet. Changed the gear lube (?) for Syn3 hoping it was just wonky fluid clutch plate acting up syndrome...but no luck. I guess primary off is next step. At least it has a trap door...lol.

And no pieces of metal big enough for their own part number came out with the old lube.
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Someday
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on what Oldog said. How many miles on it?

(Message edited by someday on June 20, 2011)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

27k, and from the looks of it...not easy miles either.
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my tranny beefed up and had the gears back-cut for this very reason. Now the gears pull them self's together when shifting. Mine was doing this and when you would take off from a light it pop into gear suddenly and you would be doing an unintentional wheelie! Then i started getting a false neutral in 4th-5th gear up or down shift. I was racing my brother on his bike off a freeway off ramp that turns into a 1/4 mile straight before the last corner. and we were going about 130mph and i went to down shift and got a false neutral right into the corner. It was scary as hell and at that moment i new the tranny needed to be worked on!!
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bright side, if the clutch and rotor come off, you are in position to do the crank shaft seal
IMO that bike is about due so I would recommend it
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Rich
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '95 Sportster was doing that when I bought it, Joe. The dogs on 1st gear were worn.

I had put the taller Andrews 1st gear in my RS many moons ago, so I had the old ones in stock to fix it. Problem solved.
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Dwardo
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My M2 has done that ever since I've owned it. It only does it once in a while so I'm loath to take it apart.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine hates to shift into 1st after it has been sitting parked for a few hours. After the first time, it is good the rest of the ride.
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