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Hellraged
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guell send me a email, would like to meet up either this weekend or next to put the muffler and exhaust on my bike but email me back from the one i sent ya earlier if you didnt already. And doing it myself, im not so mechanicaly? swavey should you say lol not the greatest person for that since my dad taught me nothing when i was a kid and i had no interest indoing mechanic work until i was well into my 20's lol thanks :P
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Hellraged
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

email sent Guell check your email :P

-Nick
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

replied

A lot of this stuff is easy to do once you have the tools and a service manual.
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Hellraged
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i do have a service manual but on the pc, been lookin at the fork part or w/e guess i need the tools :P but will check email shortly :P
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey all got a question, going to get buying a seal master thing (the plastic peice to go between the seal and the fork to clean out dirt that could cause some leakage) but all websites say take out the dust shield , but how to do this ? i dont see one on the bike that is easly accesable. they all say use a screwdriver and slide the dust shield down and then you can put that seal master thing and get the dirt out, but i dont see anything i can get with a screwdriver and pull down on the fork with it installed on the bike, anyone have any suggestions or a website that better explains the forks on buells? im looking at the service manual and still cant see where it is.. thanks, tryin to get this thing going so i can meet Guell this weekend, .... another question think it would be good riding 90 miles with a little leak on the right fork until Guell can look at it or something? or is there a quick fix or something until i can get it fixed? thanks!
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Davefl
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WP forks do not have a dust shield that I know of..
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

excellent, i bought this seal mate thing, and ran it around the seal and as soon as i did had alittle dirt/sand come off on the seal mate! i wonder if it worked! im so excited to see the dirt in a weird way hahaha but i kept running it around and there is no more dirt, i pushed the handlebars down to compress the front in and i see no signs of leaking wonder if it worked? i gotta go ride it and see but its going to be raining today : (
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2011 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

6 hours later and still no leakeage, i think it fixed the problem since it wasnt spraying the fluid everywhere just alittle drop over night but now no sign still im excited might have saved me alot of money lol will find out tomorrow when i ride down to see guell which is about 90 or so miles away one way either way im happy :P is there anything i can put on my fork to protect the seal from the sand/dirt? where i live theres alot of sand prob. going to be a accuring problem .
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YAY lol drove to Guells house today, started out rocky as my license plate and holder flew off my bike, tried to look for it for a hour and couldnt dunno where it could have gone... and got to his house was a nice ride then got rained on but was fun, he has some pics wonder where he is gonna post them? : D
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14d
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2011 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might be able to find some motocross fork protectors that would work. I know they make neoprene fork booties for mountain bikes so I'd imagine there's something similar for motocross or motorcycles. As long as you keep the fork stanchions clean and avoid riding in the rain and grime when you can you should be alright. Too bad the WP's don't have a wiper/dustseal but the ones on my Showas are so flimsy I doubt they do a whole lot either. Careful riding with a leaking fork especially on the right side, if your brakes get contaminated that could end very badly for you. If its still leaking at all I'd replace it. Like others have said replacing the seals and oil in the fork is pretty easy, especially with a knowledgeable friend. I was able to drive one seal in myself carefully using some ball tipped allen wrenches. The local dirtbike shop drove the other stubborn one for ten bucks or so. Don't think I tried freezing them though, if so probably could've gotten them both without using a seal driver.
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi all, been riding good and what not, really enjoying the S1 , but the seal mate worked for awhile, but it seems im just gonna have to break down and replace the seals, the previous owner prob. did wheelies with it and then let it sit for 6 years prob. dry rotted but anyways , anyone know a good website to buy fork seals from before i have to go to local harley dealer? thanks!

-Nick
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok well, the fork seal is the least of my problems now.... I drove to the gas station today, went inside to buy a few things when i came out and went to go, my bike was makeing a strange noise seems like its coming from where the shifter is located maybe the grank case? anyways i had it in first and tried to go , got it to 5k rpms and still wouldnt go was like a snail. I finally got it on the road but was almost redlineing it threw the gears until i got to a side street and i pulled off. Sat there for a bit and it like fixed itself or something so i drove it back home. When i got home it seemed to be driving good so i drove it down the street and it started doing it again. So i drove it back home got to the bottom of the hill where i live and it wouldnt have enough power to get up the hill so i had to push it home.. : ( seems like something is stuck or something making a weird noise when i try to go ... anyone know what the problem could be? it still starts and idles good just cant get no power to go.. : ( sad day indeed.
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Rodent
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like the clutch is fried. Not a difficult repair. If others on here agree with that diagnosis, its something we can totally talk you through.
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Guell
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember the adjuster boot on the cable was up when we were riding, id make sure your clutch is properly adjusted first. With that little miles on the bike, i find it hard to believe that the clutch is fried.

It could be but id try the simple stuff first.
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah still idles good and starts up right away , when i was riding and it was going slow and reving up high RPM's sometimes it would like "catch" and jump the bike forward fast in a unsafe manner had to pull in the clutch, so How would i check to see if the clutch is properly adjusted? kind of a downer now lol this sucks : ( also i though with this low miles nothing on the bike could break so easly.. maybe sitting for too long? lol just spent 3 hours welding and putting on this new license plate holder too looks nice lol ohwell.
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

erm, i followed the shifter cable? the one thats connected to the shifter up in front of the bike and has a cover over the cable that goes infront of the engine, when to see if it got disconnected or loose or something and a whole bunch of oily looking water came out? i think its just rain water build up or something? cant really explain if yall dont know what im talking about ill try and take a pic and show you, nothing looks broke though .

ok i looked at the manual and saw the clutch adjustment , i guess that rubber boot was the thing filled with water or something... it does look a abit down compaired to the manual , i guess ill try to tighten?

(Message edited by Hellraged on June 02, 2011)
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Hellraged
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Diffently has something to do with the clutch. Went out there and put it in first did the friction zone training then and makes a weird noise coming from where the gear shifter is located.. has something to do with something in there. How easy is that to fix? or how much would a shop charge to fix something like that? thanks.
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Guell
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2011 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First off, id do a proper clutch adjustment. Its in the manual. After that and no changes it needs to be opened up. Could be something like the primary adjusting shoe broke and parts are dislodged etc.
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok i found what i had to do on the manual, But today i took off the primary cover and transmission fluid drained out : ( so atleast i know i had some in there and of course i need some in there now lol. Didnt want to mess up anything because of the spring or something is in there so i just put the plate back on, But since i saw what i had to do in the manual i will try to do it tomorrow been so freakin hot out sweating like a dog lol anyways ill see what i can do , cant mess it up any worse than what it is now so =/
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Jim2
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bike must be straight up and down, not leaning on side stand. That is why you leaked when you removed cover. Now you are low on fluid in primary. Must refill. Level bike, remove cover, and fill to just even with bottom of clutch sprocket.
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Hellraged
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have this neighbor going to come over tomorrow he is always outside working on old fords and what not , he said he likes to make things work , older guy always working on some engine and ect.. told him i have manual to show how to do everything he said he will come by tomorrow and try to get it to work, we will see :P if not i guess ill trailer it to a shop and see how much it will cost to get fixed hopefully just something simple like the clutch adjustment anyways thanks all! ill be on the road again soon hopefully lol .. also is it bad to just idle the bike with it in this condition? or just dont start it at all? thanks.

i feel the stupid guy that spent 11k brand new in 98 on a bike and let it go to shit in 3k miles crazy.. lol guess ppl got money like that or something =/
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Rodent
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's a gearhead, AND you have a service manual. Your bike's as good as fixed.

If he grabs a "steel" hammer for any reason, tell him thanks but its on warranty, and show him the door. But I'd be willing to bet that won't happen.

Keep us posted.
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is it ok to start the bike and idle without transmission fluid? just wondering so i can let him hear the problem? or should i go get some transmission fluid first and put it in the bike .... guess stupid question lol prob. gotta get some transmission fluid if i would let him hear the problem.. lol
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Zaphof
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No don't run it. Explain the problem to him. If you do start it, don't put it in gear. Its not generally a good thing to let a bike stand for lengthy periods, anything rubber tends to perish.
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok i wont run it, but when i go buy some transmission fluid what kind should i put in there? it says use the one from harley but a harley dealer isnt near here. Is there a type of oil i can buy from say advanced autoparts or something? thanks!
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Guell
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I either use Harley syn3 or their formula + . It's what Harley recomends and since there's a stator in there i feel better using it
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

20w50 for engine and 80W90 or 75w90 gear oil is good enough
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Guell
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run 20 50 in the primary. I just like the syn3 in both if crank seal goes out the 2 oils are the same
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Hellraged
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bah dude never showed up, saw him outside doing lawn work all day guess he was busy doesnt really bother me seeing how i poped up on him last night at the last min lol . Anyways decided im just going to trailer the bike to a shop next weekend to get a estimate and go from there, worst come to worst ill just park my bike in my parents garage until i have money to fix, atleast it will be out of the elements =/ ohwell
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Hellraged
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok well i watched a video on a clutch adjustment seems pretty strait forward will do that .. but since i already drained all the oil from the gearbox or w/e , where do i refill at? since i dont have a motorcycle stand ? if anyone to point me to the right video or website i can look at thanks.
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