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Jesus_quintana
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

with only 1,600 miles. What should I mod first? TIA.
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Guell
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

part it out and put the engine in a chopper frame lol.

Intake, muffler, carb. New tires, peg relocators etc.
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Desertfox
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe replace the shock with something shiny and really expensive : p

In my opinion, switching to the Works Performance shock was the most enjoyable change to my X1. Besides, most of the original units fail eventually and can be very difficult to rebuild. The Works shock is easily rebuildable with average tools and access to high pressure nitrogen.
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Fahren
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TIA: "This Is Africa?"
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Jramsey
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

TIA: "This Is Africa?"

Thanks in advance.
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Essmjay
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the first thing to do is go for a long ride and see what bugs you, then change those things first. You may be happy just the way it is for now.
WIA
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Fahren
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pix, or it never happened.
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Jayvee
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take the passenger grab strap off the seat.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought my 98 S1W with 1100 miles on it, too.

I cleaned the carb.

I replaced the rockerbox gaskets when they started leaking.

I rode the wheels off the bike until the OEM rear shock started leaking, then put on a used Penske.

I scored a complete Buell race exhaust for it, so I installed that.

I think I might put 1125CR mirrors on it if I can find another set.

But other than that...I agree, ride it for a while and get to know it, before you start changing things. I also have a stock, low-mile '01 M2L (3300 miles). I need to un-L it since I'm 6'4", but all I've done to it is lose the breadbox (put on my spare CF hamcan to clear my knee), cleaned the carb, changed to CR mirrors, and ridden it. The M2 is a torque monster. I have a race exhaust for it, but haven't been all that compelled to stick it on just yet. Damn thing runs awesome without it, at least for now...so I'm just riding it from time to time, and having fun when I do : )
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Jesus_quintana
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pics will be added tomorrow... it's completely stock, including the huge air intake. I think that, along with an exhaust, are the first two things I'll upgrade. Otherwise, the bike is beautiful. I put 30 miles on it today... nothing really bugged me.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M2 the best tuber ever made My first Buell if I could only have one it would be my M123T
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Jesus_quintana
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Littlebuggles
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Beautiful bike. 2002 is the most sorted of the model years for the tube frames, but 01 got significant upgrades, like that shifter. Enjoy it in it's stock form for a while. That remote res shock was as good as it got for stock parts, RaceTech can rebuild, but as said above, upgrading to an easier to service part is recommended if you've got the $$.

When you do the intake and carb you'll want to put in a 45 slow jet in addition to the higher flow main jet.

I love my M2. I go back and forth on intakes. I've got a modded stocker I put on every other year or so, running a K&N stock type filter with the snorkel removed, it's great for wet weather riding. Some think that part is ugly, I like it.

Oh yeah, Congratulations and Welcome!!

(Message edited by littlebuggles on March 20, 2011)
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Buell_bert
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Essmjay. Please just ride it for a year or so. Appreciate the fine quality of the Eric's engineering. Read some of the stuff here and see what you may need to do to truly make it ready for you. I still have a STOCK 2001 M2 and have not changed a thing except for gas and oil and tires. Grab a hand full of throttle and dump the clutch and, well you will know.
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Jesus_quintana
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2011 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thank you for all the helpful comments. I think I'll take your advice and leave it stock, except for a new exhaust... I've been told that the carb should be rejetted when installing a new exhaust, so I'll need to do that, correct?

Littlebuggles: what part should I get to install the "45 slow jet"? A link would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, can't recall if it's "slow jet" or "low speed jet"? Give me a bit to find some pics from the Knowledge Vault, like 'til tomorrow unless someone knows it off the top of their heads. I got my instruction here, it's a pretty easy mod. The jet is available from any (HD) dealership, stock carb comes with a 43 if I remember right. Don't say "Buell" unless they've got it on their sign (even then be careful), just tell them you want a 45 jet for a Keihin CV40 carb. A lot of folks have found this useful at any altitude.

You will want to increase fuel flow if you increase air and exhaust flow. If you do only one or the other your bike will run poorly.

Oh, one of the best things you can get for your bike is the shop manual, with that and a parts book you can do most work that your bike will ever need. I love the parts book for the exploded diagrams, sometimes, okay usually they tell me tons more than the written text.

Old paper gaskets go bad quickly on a bike that's sat as long as yours. Your rocker box gaskets will probably be the first thing to go. Might save your mod money for the more practical mods such as putting (single piece) XB rocker box covers on in place of the two piece covers on there now. Your new gaskets will be much better either way. Probably starter and primary after that (those are best done together anyway). Then your shock.

You've bought a good bike, but it's sat a lot so don't be freaked out, just anticipate having some leaky gaskets come up and deal with them as you get them.

Spend some serious time browsing the K.V. archives, you'll have to go back a few years for tube framed bike issues. We've discussed many items here in the old school section too.

Ahhh, um. Make sure your bike is warm, or hot even, like just after a ride, when you check your oil or you will over fill it. It drains down into the motor when it sits, so you've got to have had the motor running to pump it all into the res.

I think that'll do for now.
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>it's completely stock, including the huge air intake.

That huge airbox (HVPS) is a stroke of pure genius. Think of it as a Bose speaker turned inside out.

Before you remove it. . . do a bit of reading and understand it.

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Buell_bert
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Absolutely Court. With the bike stock, the muffler works in concert with the stock air intake to smooth everything out and it is also very quiet. I have modified quite a few things but my 2001 Blue M2 Buell will remain stock as long as my spare parts last. I have to admit though that at an enriched idle it vibrates quite a bit and tends to walk around the garage in reverse if left unattended.
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Tleighbell
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2011 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That huge airbox (HVPS) is a stroke of pure genius. Think of it as a Bose speaker turned inside out.

Before you remove it. . . do a bit of reading and understand it. "

Can you elaborate? Or at least point us to where to read?
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry JQ, I have only just gotten in for the day. I think in the morning I'll have time to sit in front of the 'puter again. Been running all day.

I think Court is referring to the Helmholtz intake, or "Helmholtz Volume Power System" as it's called in the brochures. I'm also waiting for further enlightenment on the matter. Something to do with maintaining power while reducing intake noise I believe.
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Ljm
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My X 1 is stock and it is staying that way until the tinkering HAS to happen due to lack of parts availability. I like it this way. I put my first 1125 back to stock when I got it too. Figured there was a reason they engineered it that way and I am not smart enough to improve on it.
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Jayvee
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, is genius ugly...
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Gowindward
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_resonance
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Desertfox
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting... I wonder if the Helmholtz effect is eliminated in X1 Lightnings that have had the air box gutted. The Wiki mentions a relationship between chamber volume and passage size.

I need to find a replacement snorkel : p
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Gowindward
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2011 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I wonder if the Helmholtz effect is eliminated in X1 Lightnings that have had the air box gutted. "

It sure would be.
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Jesus_quintana
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, it seems that you've convinced me to keep the air box... now, what would be the effect of changing the muffler? As long as the carb is rejetted to conform with the new outflow, the operation of the intake (and its advantages) should be unaltered, correct?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Removing the snorkel was part of the Buell Race kit. As I understand it, the resonator had a lot to do with reducing intake noise, and not a whole lot to do with making power. But M2 cams are different than X1 cams. You might not benefit from removing the snorkel even if you go to an aftermarket exhaust.
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yea if you gain hp from a different intake then i dont understand why you would want to keep the ugly stocker, even if it is quieter.
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Jim2
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OR maybe the box wasn't part of the race kit because it takes too long to take it off and put it back on again if need be???
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Fasted
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

some people (especially non-riders) find noise annoying, making quieter better in their world view. unless you are racing, even a stock m2 makes plenty of tractable power with very little noise. excessive noise simply cannot be ignored (i.e. california and denver, colorado). noise draws more attention than any other of the facets of motorcycling that so many citizens dislike.

stock aint so bad..............really!

if you enjoy your own interpretation of traffic control "guidelines" as i do, you will find stealth mode to be less taxing on the wallet and jail cell time will likely be greatly reduced.......just sayin'

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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jesus, sorry I've taken so long to get back on this. There's some very good reading on this thread from the Knowledge Vault archives:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/157526.html?1186430192

Here's a link to a page with some nice diagrams and useful tuning information. I especially like the "CV Carb Cutaway" as it pretty much answers all the what part is which question:

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/hd_cv_mods.htm# slide_detail
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