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Ducxl
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a seal between the outer and inner airbox.It's a poor seal to begin with,but it isn't listed in the parts catalogue.It runs the outer periphery(that one).I NEED to product improve the existing part.The seal is like round in cross-section like an O-ring.It fits in the female channel.


Can i buy(guessing 1/16" diameter cross-section)O-ring material by the foot somewhere?

Maybe when i assemble i should schmooey the channel with permatex.But future service to the part will be more messy.
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Desertfox
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think know what you're talking about. I would say you could probably rig something with a soft aquarium tubing acting as an o-ring.
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80rs427
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My local NAPA auto parts store will make o-rings from bulk material. You could tell them the diameter of the ring and the length you need, and they should be able to make one for you, or sell you a length.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1 boxes are the weakest link of the package.
Not enough screws hold the thing together so that at certain lower RPMs, the thing flaps and lets stuff inside.

Mine was gutted before I got it so it was really bad. Little rocks were found in the "Clean side" of the box.

That is the main reason I went to a force winder.

One thing I was tempted to do was to put the outer cover back on and leave the filtration to the forcewinder but I got used to the narrow-ness of the bike without the side plastic things.
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It IS a very poor design.I like the line.
I'll try NAPA.I should be able to buy it by the foot.

I like the idea using a Forcewinder AND original cover.I've just not seen anything i like better than original.The CF extensions come close.

Dunno..I also need to hide my new Penske shock's remote reservoir behind the LH "EAR".If that can be done.
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Fast1075
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see from your profile that you live in RI. I buy and use a lot of tubing and seal material and my vendor of choice is a company named Rubber and Acessories...but they do'nt have any stores up north. I found the below site by googling. I don't know any of them personally.

Richardson Corp, in Providence ph 401.521.5832 McGill Hose...mcgillhose.com and BDI bdi-usa.com

If the seal is in effect a hose (you mentioned "o-ring" like cross section...silicone hose in the appropriate diameter would be ideal...fuel and oil proof with excellent resillience...I wouldn't think a solid cross section material would be very good...it takes considerable clamping force to compress,and if as Nate (above) suggests the box suffers from harmonics induced sealing problems the solid material won't work well at all....another possible source for the tubing may be a hobby shop that specializes in R/C planes and such. They should have silicone hose in stock.

Hope this helps...Harry
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Buellistic
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The way "i" got around the SEAL replacement is by putting K&N R-3680 a Plugged the SNORKEL holes with J.B. WELD ...

PICTURES if you want them, just PM me ...



CORRECTION !!!




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(Message edited by buellistic on January 22, 2011)
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Desertfox
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to do that, but my air box was gutted before I got my bike.

*sigh* Gotta find an e-bayed one I guess : p
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to see those pictures Lafayette.

K&K R-3680???

PM Coming your way.Plugging those holes will defeat the airbox resonance tho... I'm stuck so far deciding HOW to product improve the SEAL

Hey Desertfox,you still need that part?
My new Penske shock should mount in a day or so.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You might, depending on diameter, be able to use window screen welting from Home Depot. If you look at a window screen, you'll see the frame has a C channel in it; the screen is laid on the frame and the rubber welting shoved into the C channel, pinning the screen in place.
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