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Buellish
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some of you may remember that last fall I did Loren's charging
system mod to my '95 S2.I road it for a couple of weeks with no problem.
The Weekend of Buelltoberfest I road up to Suches and on the
way my LED volt meter started showing an overcharge.
Sunday I took the S2 to a friend's shop.The plan was for him to
correct a problem with first gear the bike had when I bought it.I
mentioned the over charge and asked him to look into it as well.
I went to South Georgia the next day,was gone around six weeks
and came home to the news that my stator and rotor had self
destructed.
When I installed the XB stator and my original rotor,I didn't use
modeling clay to check the clearance between them as Loren
recommended in his write up.Like a fool,I assumed that the S3
and S2 would be the same and I would have no problem with
clearance.I spun the rotor a few times and didn't feel or hear any
contact so I buttoned it up.
The stator had a plastic wire retention piece and plastic on the
ends of the poles.All the plastic was broken,the wires were broken
and the magnets on the rotor were trashed as well.
My friend couldn't find anything wrong with my installation.
Everything was done by the book,so we had to assume there wasn't
enough clearance between the two parts.He installed a new rotor,
stator and spaced the rotor out .020 for clearance.
When he cranked the bike up it was still over charging,up to 18
volts just like before.
I've gone through two more new voltage regulators with the same
result.It keeps overcharging.I used an XB wiring diagram to make
sure it's wired correctly.I have redundant grounds and a new battery.
I'm at my wits end.I don't know what to do.I'm ready to put the
stock S2 charging system back on.
If anyone has any ideas,I would apreciate it.
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Gowindward
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michael, sorry to hear of the trouble! Shooting from the hip here, but could it be the insufficient grounding of the VR? The VR has to have a really good ground to dump the excess voltage produced if IIRC.
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Buellish
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loren,I have the internal regulator ground,the original
heavy S2 ground and today I ran another ground
from the regulator to the frame.No luck.
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Gowindward
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would go back and do the continuity test to ground on the stator conductors. Good would be no continuity to ground. Then check AC voltage output on the stator. If those pass then I would still be looking at the VR. I had a faulty VR when I did my install.....drove me nuts thinking I had done something wrong.
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Midnight_rider
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What did you find out?
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I beefed up my ground.Went from the internal harness ground with 10 gauge wire to a frame lug and from there to the battery.Same result.
I haven't had time to get back on it.
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93jrh
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Overcharging can also be the result of bad
wiring connections.ck all related to charging system.
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well,I have continuity from the stator and through the harness connector.I've checked all the connections and they are good.
I just can't keep buying voltage regulators.
The dealership won't do a return on an electrical component unless they install it.
In my case they would say "it's not designed for this application".And wouldn't do a return.
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Gowindward
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Well,I have continuity from the stator and through the harness connector." To ground? That would not be good!
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Buellish
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loren,I don't know much about using a multimeter.
I switched the meter to ohm's,put the positive probe to each of the three stator wires,the ground probe to a bare spot on the frame and got readings of .8,.9 and 1.0.

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Gowindward
Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There should be no continuity to ground. (Infinite ohms). If you are seeing continuity to ground then the stator is shorted out to ground giving you that connection/continuity.

Did you check AC voltage output from the stator? Procedure would be in the service manual.
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