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The_mad_mick
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HI I NEED A GOOD HARD WEARING TIRE FOR MY 1998 S3T, I COMMUTE 80 MILES + A DAY ON IT ITS A GREAT BIKE FOR THIS, BUT WHAT I SAVE IN GAS IS USED UP IN TIRES, ITS A 170/60-17 TIRE(REAR)
I'VE USED CONTIFORCE AND CONTIMOTION TIRES GETTING AROUND 3000 MILES ON A REAR AND 4500 ON THE FRONT THIS IS REDICULUS ,I HAD A BANDIT 1200 BACK IN 98 ON MICHELIN MACADAM TIRES AND GOT 9 - 10,000 MILES PER REAR TIRE AND 17000 ON A FRONT AGAIN COMMUTING.
ANY HELP OUT THERE IN BUELL LAND
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Fuzzz
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the Metzler ME 880's for longevity, and they work well when I want to play hard, or when it's raining buckets. There's my .02. :-)
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks fuzzz
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Edv
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mick,
I use Metzler Z6 tires and running the rear at 34#I am able to get 12,000 miles out of them. Like you this is commuting type riding not wheelies and burnouts.
On the front tire I run40-42# other wise they tend to cup but every brand I have tried does this so it is not just the Metzler tire

Ed
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Edv THANKS THATS MORE LIKE IT ,GREAT ,GLAD OF THE INFO,I'll LOOK IN TO A SET OF THOSE. MICK
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Snp304
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right now I have 8000 on a pair of Pirelli Diablo Strada tires. Same thing for me, I commute daily about 78 miles or so on my S1. I probably have another 4-500 miles before the rear tire will show cords. I wear the hell out of the middle of the tires.
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Devil_car
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've gotten over 12,000 miles on Conti Road Attacks. I'm on my second set with probably about 10,000 and they still look decent.
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Ljm
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have Michelin Pilot Powers on one of my bikes, 7K miles on them now, still look new with NO appreciable wear, not even any squaring off from mostly long freeway runs.
Larry
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Michelin Pilot Road 2 on my S3T. They've got around 6,000 miles on them and I'd guess they're about half worn, and this includes a lot of high-speed across the desert riding.
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Blackm2
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

About to order my third set of Metzeler Z6's. Have gotten over 9000 miles on each set. Great all around, all weather tire.
Sporttour.com has the best price I've found.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm actually running a set of Shinko Ravens and really like them.

I've got about 1200 miles on them and the wear is good.

I have never gotten more than 4200 miles out of ANY set of tires. If I get that much out of these, I will consider them a success.

I got the set for $160 shipped.
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Tbolt98
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Dunlop RoadSmarts dual-compound on my S3, and will likely put them on my 1125 when it is due! I've ridden alot of straight highway including NY to Homecoming and back and have no flat spot in the center... and they still have great cornering grip.
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about Dunlop 616s?

They look like a rain tire and came stock on Ulys a few years back?
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guy's thank you I'm relieved to hear these testimonials great, like I said at 80mls + a day tires get expensive with a 3000 mls life.
I do 60mls a day on small quite country back lanes and 20mls a day city riding in all weather good or bad.
So these tires you've told me about should do the trick.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the Pilot Road 2. I have about 6k on the set on my S2 and they look brand new...and I'm not a gentle rider. 5k on the D208 on my S1W and it's toast; I get 5k like clockwork out of my 616 on the Uly rear.

Look into anything DUAL COMPOUND. They're hard in the middle and soft on the edges; good treadwear when you're slabbing it but still good grip in the turns (I've also done 2-up around a racetrack on the S2 with the PR2's, they held just fine!).
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Mad Mick the most important thing is keep trying different tires, your results may vary from anyone else depending on the conditions you ride in. Remember to pump up the tire pressure to the max amount on the tire side wall heat is the killer of tires more than anything else. Remember to figure the tire cost on a per mile basis including mounting and balance a tire that gets 2000 more miles but costs twice as much is not a better deal.
Anything that says sport in it won't last as long.
I have a M2 that I use 75% of the time for commuting. In the 38000 miles I put on the bike 2 different Z6 ran about 7500 miles each, pilot road 2ct about 10000, roadsmart 8600 and I have a conti motion on it now it might get 8000.
Keep looking, I am, start thinking about touring tires. Where you buy has as much effect on the bottom line as anything else.
Good luck and keep in touch.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Conti Road Attacks got pretty good mileage for me, about 6K on the back if I remember right. Stuck great on the track too, but then I switched to the Pirellis on my M2 and the XB came with them.

Sooo... I'm really diggin' the Pirelli Scorpion Syncs on both my bikes right now. More supple than the Conti's were and great stick too. Have yet to wear out a set of them but haven't been able to ride as much this last year and a half.

I'd like to try the Michelin Pilot Road 2 some day. And maybe some Avon's too, one of these days...
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well I had to get a roadsmart tire for my bike this weekend as that was available and my conti force was down to the wire.
46CHAMP I'll bear in mind what you've said on the sidewall issue and try other tire's, next I look at the z6 as they seem to have a good reputation.
thank you all other contributer's to this question.
I'm not so bothered about sporting tire's as I can do what I do on a touring tire.
doing the back lane's at high speed then town work which is always a joke.lol
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a tire that gets 2000 more miles but costs twice as much is not a better deal.

Unless you REALLY hate mounting tires, lol.

I had Road Attacks on my Firebolt - I really like them and they seemed to wear well enough, but after 4 months or so I noticed dry cracking in the treads. I'm sure it's not typical, but I personally won't bother with Continental tires anymore.
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes conti tires are not on my future shopping list
They're ok but don't last for me around a month to 5 weeks (to soft)thats no good for me
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mad mick, I believe the Conti's ("CONTIFORCE AND CONTIMOTION") you have tried are not like the Road Attacks. Many riders on this forum seem to have good results with the Road Attacks lasting for good mileage.
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The_mad_mick
Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi Fahren thank you for your input, I'll see what these dunlops get and then try a metzeler z6 next and go from there the contis are very competitively priced though.
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Jon960
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not a very aggressive rider but I barely got 3000 miles out of my rear road attack, but we have a coarser road chip than the USA. its the Michelen pilot 2 dual compound for me, good wear and adhesion
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 03:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon, I've read that the New Zealand roads are great for holding onto your tires! That 3000 mile use is about what other tuber riders locally have gotten out of the Race Attacks (I can only imagine how quick you'd burn up a set of those).

The Jan 2011 SportRider has an interesting article on the newest Conti's(ContiRoad Attack2) and their curing process that lets them cure the center harder than the sides, so there's no transition form compound to compound. They are calling it a Hyper-sport Touring tire. Sounds pretty cool the way they are doing this stuff.

Anyway, as far as Conti's are concerned, I wanted to try a different tire because the Road Attacks seemed kind of heavy, and I just didn't like the look of the tread... otherwise they were great for my commuting, canyon riding, and occasional track day.

Wish I could ride more, I'd really like to try some of the new tires on the market right now.
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Outdoors
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wondering how your tire selection would change depending on whether you are running the standard Buell cast wheels or the PMs? It seems that the selection for the slightly narrower standard wheels is more limited.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If that's a general question I can tell you my experience Outdoors.

The Sync's aren't available in a 170 for the Castalloy wheels. You can put a 180 on there.

I've got the Sync's on my M2 with standard rims. General riding duties are fine, pretty good actually with wet performance and general ride qualities. However, when I take it up the canyon and turn my riding up a notch I found they make me a bit nervous. Being on the 5" rim changes their profile a bit and I don't get the same confidence inspiring ride I enjoy from a 170 tire.

Some people will run up to a 190 on the 5" rim. I intend to have the Sync off my bike and put some D207's in the proper size [back] on my bike. The Pirellis will hang out waiting for me to burn up the tires on the XB, the originals are starting to crack a little between the tread blocks.

In looking at tires over the years, the European marketed tires - Avons and Conti's (just off the top of my head) and such seem to more consistently provide tires in the 170 width.
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Outdoors
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buggles,

I'm in agreement with you in that for the Castalloy wheels, the 170 width is best. I wish that there were more choices in good dual compound tires in that size. I've had excellent results with Avon Roadriders on my vintage Bonnieville and so may consider the Avon Storm 2 Ultra or VP2 Sport that both come in 170/60ZR17.

If the Michelin PP2 ct came in the correct size then I would be very happy to run them.

I have considered getting a set of PM rims for the ability to run the more common 180 tire however I actually prefer the black Castalloys. Oh well.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For what it's worth, the Pilot Power 2ct is only softer on the shoulders compared to a regular Pilot Power - the center of the tread of the two tires is the same, so you should see the same kind of mileage.

In fact, track day guys like the regular Powers over the 2ct's because you don't thrash the shoulders as fast.
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