| Author | Message | ||
     The_wild_one |
ok, first YES i had check the older posts, i know about "Joesbuell" project, et al, etc. (which i like a lot) but i haven't found this: if i have the trees and steering stem, bar clamp, etc. from a M2. can i just "slide" xb forks? of course 43 mm ones, and if so, which are the years and models the "43 mm" ones. at the rear i already got an XB swingarm (i know some people here have done it before) i've been checking the post and it seems that all you need are "spacers" to use the XB swingarm on the motor mount of a tuber. now, i haven't seen if the XB and old tuber mounts are the same? -or even if the Xb have mounts at all, which i ignore- i know the shock will need to be "grafted" (fabricate) making a new mount on the frame. well, here is the thing, pretty much i will be making my "own" frame, taking as a pattern the old M2 frame. which i will be copying the measurements, rake trail, etc. but it will be an "open" -like an arch- having the engine "suspended". the frame will be something like the confederate WRAITH, but a little different, of course. any info is deeply appreciated. and yes that's my almost defunct M2 (Message edited by the_wild_one on November 03, 2010) | ||
| The_wild_one |
pic of my M2, all that survives is the engine and frame. pretty much, (well i have a bunch of parts for sale, by the way)  | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Stock M2 triple clamps can be used however they'll need to be machined to the proper dimension. All M2's used the same type forks, as far as I'm aware. All years clamps ought to measure the same (98-02 I believe, but maybe there were M2's in 96-97 also?). I've got some M2 forks laying in the garage and can measure the upper legs if you need that number. S3 and X1 clamps may be used otherwise, and I think the S1's and early S3's also used the same size inverted forks, so those clamps would prolly work as well. Close comparison by the machinist said the M2 and X1 clamps were the same but cut to different size bores. My top clamp was opened up by said machinist who told me due to the cut (to hold the fork legs) already in the clamp the part had a tendency to chatter and was "kind of a pain". I'd suggest filing off the casting marks and at least polishing those outer faces if you've got the the clamps off for machining anyway. It really improved the fit and finish on the bike. 'Course you could clean them up and powder coat or hard anodize too to your preference, I'm just sayin'... Measurement is just a hair over 54mm for both upper and lower clamping points on the X1 inverted forks I've got on my M2. I hope that is the information you were looking for. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
OOOPS!!! Missed the XB part somehow. My 07 XB12STT forks measure 54mm a the top clamp and 56mm at the bottom clamp. Looking at how much material is on the lower clamp on my tuber I really don't think there'd be enough material there to hold the fork at all, let alone having any kind of safety margin for failure under any conditions (including normal riding). I think that's a better answer, but the previous post tells you why. Might want to get a measurement from another model, S or R to see if the lower clamp is larger on them as well. Just post a quick request in the XB section for a measurement, you should get a fairly speedy response. | ||
| The_wild_one |
thanks for the info, i really appreciated, i either will machine the triple trees of the M2 to accept the xb forks, or just get the triples from and xb. now, if i get the set of the XB -triple trees-, will this fit on the M2 "neck" with no issues or mods?. what about the "steering lock" and the turning radius, i guess it will be less? thanks again guys and i really, really appreciate the info and posts. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
I believe there's a notch of sorts machined into the steering stem on the tuber, if you don't sell your old triples before getting the new ones you can compare and get the lock machined in if there isn't something in there already. Comparing the parts should also tell you how or if your steering radius will be affected. (If you don't I've got a lower triple with stem you can borrow for comparison purposes, or just take lots of pictures and measurements before you ship your old parts away). | ||
| Guell |
from my understanding is that if you use the xb triples, then you will have to slide the forks up about 2-3 inches to get proper clamping, which will lower your front end. I plan on using xb-s triples and have the bottom and uper counterbored like purpony did and press a tuber steering stem in. That will bolt up and use the tuber upper bolt. | ||
| The_wild_one |
ok, it seems that i'm getting a pair of XB wheels but they're from a 2009 XB12X, the measurements are: 17x3.5 front 17x5.5 rear are the xb12x wheels different than any XB9/ XB12? or are they the same?... i believe they're the same, just want to be sure before i go ahead and get them... thanks |
