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Doug_s
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi all,

at ~41k, the drive belt snapped on my '95 s2; the dealer found this when getting ready to replace the belt - bearing walking itself out of the sprocket. anyone see/hear about this before? suggestions? (besides replace the bearing.)











thanks,

doug s.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Happened to me once, used a socket to hammer it back in after putting some assembly lube on the rollers.

Put a new seal on and it never happened again...
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me add, make sure it isn't damaged before tapping it back in...
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That bracket looks little messed up, no?
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also remember that the nut is left hand threaded.
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Doug_s
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a far as i know, no messed up bracket - not sure what you are seeing in the pics.

but, i have another question - any suggestions for upgrading the durability of the stock 40202-91a sprocket - the splines are fried on mine, and i will be replacing it. i am looking for something more durable, w/stock 29t ratio. i am not too excited about getting another stock cast part, or "lightweight" aluminum. baker makes a nice steel one, but only 28t, afaik...

doug s.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried an aluminium Belt Drive specialties one with a steel insert for the spline.

The belt contact surface wore down by about half in 13k miles.

I then ordered a stocker to replace and no issues...
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Doug_s
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, so who has the best prices on a stocker, besides the $240 quoted to me by the dealer. i guess i can live w/40k miles before i need another one.

thanks,

doug s.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That thing is missing like half of the rollers and we're concerned about a possible broken bracket?

That bearing needs to be replaced, especially if it's been run at all in the state its in.
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Doug_s
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

missing bearings? the shop said the bearings looked ok. where would they have gone? could they fall out completely on the ground, when being ridden? it looks to me like the bearings are still being held in place...

the shop said it's about 4 hours labor to replace the bearing cuz the shaft has to come out of the transmission...

thanks,

doug s.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doug - check with one of the badweb sponsors. I know HDF is listed as one, but since I left...well.......I buy Syn3 there now (because it's silly to ship fluid) and that's about it. And if you ever need a hand with the ol' S2, drop me a note : )

Worst case drop zac4mac a note. He's hooked me up a few times. I forget what dealer he's at - High Country, maybe? - but he takes care of us badwebbers. Also Tnxbrider / Tom Bumpus of Bumpus HD is a great guy. Got a Uly fan on the way from him as I type, actually...and I think Ft_bstrd either works there or is in there all the time as well. Or Froggy, up near Liberty...tons of options here on Badweb. And that doesn't even mention Al and Joanne at American Sport Bike, who are always awesome.

Too many choices... : )
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

missing bearings? the shop said the bearings looked ok. where would they have gone? could they fall out completely on the ground, when being ridden? it looks to me like the bearings are still being held in place...

Uhh, I'd take that thing to another shop in that case. The rollers should be all lined up right next to each other, no space in between them. That is very clearly missing MANY of them.
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Sportyeric
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As to an improved pulley, the answer is yes. Your pulley is 1/2" at the spline area, Newer ones are 3/4". There is a spacer to change and the seal for it. Looks like you'll be changing the seal anyway, so the only extra cost to the newer unit is the spacer.
And yes, its missing many rollers.

(Message edited by Sportyeric on August 18, 2010)
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Snowbees
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When repaired its a good idea to make one of these, it replaces the seal (interference fit)and has a nipple in it. give it a regular squirt of oil/grease ,helps keep those needle rollers lubed
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Whitetrashxb
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey, you mentioned the aluminum pulley: could you notice any difference with the lighter mass?

James
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Koz5150
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the 26 tooth aluminum pully on my M2. It was awesome, and I could totally tell the difference ridding around town. However, after 15,000 the slpines stripped out and I am back to running the 27 stock steel one. If I buy another, I will go with the 26 tooth steel version from American Sportbike. I feel that it was the reduction in teeth, not weight that made the big difference on my bike.
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...no messed up bracket - not sure what you are seeing in the pics."

Well, my bracket has tight wedges which keep the nut from much movement. Looks like you could turn that nut 1/4 turn or more before it catches the inside edge of the bracket. Given the condition of that bearing, I'm willing to bet that the shaft has quite a bit of "resistance" while turning thus causing the nut to move within the bracket, etc. And if your shop mechanic could not see that about more than a third of the rollers are missing, I suggest a new shop. Just my 2 cents. FWIW.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh! I see the "bracket" it's the plate that's supposed to prevent the nut from backing out.
Looks like it's failed its mission!
How does a thing like this happen?
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, plate is a better description than a bracket...
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The plate didn't fail, the sprocket nut is still there an tight the shaft bearing actually rotated out.

Whitey,
I didn't notice anything on that aluminium one.

How much for a new drive sprocket! Moses!
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a caged needle bearing,seen better ones tossed seen much worse used.......I'd replace it.
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm wondering just how did the bearing walk out like that?
I'm sure it won't be a pretty site if that bearing seized up while riding down the hiway...
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