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Bluzm2
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:56 pm: | 
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Anthonye,
If you've not replace the seal on your 97 S3, it's in need of replacment.
It WILL fail. As Oldog said above, the single lip seal versions sucks.
When it fails, you start to get engine oil in your tranny. This raises the tranny level enough to start blowing oil out the trans breather line.
Fatty, if you want to replace the seal, I have the tool, you can use it.
It's at someone elses place right now but could have it back in a couple of days if needed.
Brad |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:21 pm: |
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I will take you up on that. Right now, it's working and the neutral thing is just an annoyance. Unless I have a more pressing failure (or I see oil in the primary when I change it out this week), I'll wait until this winter to pull it all apart.
Might as well do all the shaft seals while I've got it apart. |
Anthonye
| | Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 02:50 am: |
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Bluzm2,
My S3 has almost 50K miles on it of which I put on about half. I can only assume either the previous owner changed the seal or for some strange reason I got the seal that won't wear out. I checked the trans oil and it is exactly where I filled it to about 5K miles ago. Either way I am not going to worry about it anymore. Thanks for your input. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 10:45 pm: |
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It's amazing what a quart of Formula+ can do.
Neutral is still tough to find, but the shifting is MUCH better. I don't think the primary fluid had been changed in SEVERAL thousand miles.
I've never seen primary that black.
I'm sure the seal is toast. I'll check to see what it looks like in a few miles, but I suspect I'll be digging into the primary this winter. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:43 am: |
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The giveaway on a seal going bad is low engine oil coupled with a primary level that is rising, "for no reason". I did one on my old FLHP a while back, it wasn't too bad to do.
Syn3 in the primary also works awesome. I run Syn in all the bikes, and (especially coupled with the backcut / micro-polished gears and billet trapdoor in the S1W) everything shifts great. Clutch is totally optional on upshifts. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:50 am: |
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The primary fluid was at normal levels and there was no measurable oil loss.
When I ran my fingers through the primary fluid, the black was particles not oil. So it may have been more clutch dust than oil leakage.
I'll change it again and see what it looks like.
Another indicator was the pile of crap on the plug. Either the trans is grenading or it was a large deposit over a long period of time. |
Guell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:04 am: |
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a lot of them have those piles of shavings on the magnetic plug, mine greatly decreased after i switched to syn 3 |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:12 am: |
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The shaving piles are not abnormal.
Remember - there's a *chain* in there, running on two sprockets. They wear. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:17 am: |
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I've seen shavings from wear. These looked like that but just a lot more of them. Like the plug hadn't been cleaned off for quite a while. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:28 am: |
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Sounds plausible - especially if you had black fluid. My FLHP was like that when I bought it - from the City PD. Turns out they were changing the engine oil on schedule, but had forgotten about the primary and trans fluids for the last couple cycles. Whoops, heheh... |
Buellistic
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 07:46 pm: |
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Excessive wear(and POOR SHIFTING) comes from incorrectly adjusted PRIMARY CHAIN and DRIVE BELT/CHAIN(helps kill the MOTOR SPROCKET OIL SEAL), improperly adjusted clutch when shifting, improperly adjusted SHIFTER SHAFT ASSEMBLY, and the ERGONOMICS of a correctly positioned SHIFT LEVER ...
Putting in some of these SLICK TRANSMISSION OILs/FLUIDs is just a QUICK FIX rather than fix the "REAL PROBLEM" ... |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 08:21 pm: |
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So far I've adjusted the primary based upon the "Buellistic Primary Adjustment Method", I've adjusted the belt "sloppy loose", and I've adjusted the shifter lever as correctly as one can the "banana contraption".
The shifting is smooth in every gear.
Neutral is just tricky in certain places.
Clean primary fluid didn't hurt. We'll see if there is really a leak in the oil seal soon enough. |
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