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Kfry
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so i just changed out some gaskets on the rear cylinder and tore it all the way down. when i put it back together there was some noise when i started up the bike. sounded like clacking, which i found out that it was the front push rod on the rear cylinder. i took it apart again and the front push rod is closer to the push rod cover cylinders then the rear. i know that is what the noise is but i dont have a clue how to make that go away. any ideas?? thanks
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Sportyeric
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You should be taking the rockers off when both the engine is rotated to the point that both valves are closed. When that is so, then both pushrods should be centred in the pushrod covers.
That said, I thnk there was no need to take it apart the second time. It is normal that when the rockers have been removed and replaced, oil in the lifters gets squeezed out. When re-assembled, the engine has to run enough to pump up the lifters again. It makes an ungodly racket until this is so. Ride it for a block or two, keeping the revs under 3000 or so.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope you didn't move the push-rods, Sometimes some people don't think to note which way the push rods came out and put the wrong one in the wrong spot. If you check the FSM it will explain that they are painted with 2 or 1 paint strips indicating which one it is I.E. front or rear.

If they are in the the wrong spot or in upside-down there will be more noise and the valve train will wear faster!

+1 on the lifters making noise due to oil bleed down.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The exhaust has 3 pinkish stripes, the intake 2 brown ones.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On both of mine they were pink-red. I took pictures once i had it torn down for reference.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here is a reference picture.


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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That pic shows a brown intake, and red exhaust (based on it being a front cylinder, from the mount in the top of the picture).
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And yes, they make a hellacious racket on restart if the lifters have drained. I always, if I have the lifters out of an engine, put them *in* a quart of oil until time to put them back in the engine. Cuts down on the racket.
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Kfry
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok thanks now i when the rocker arms are down on the push rods the intake push rod is really close to the push rod metal casing like it is almost rubbing it. and the other one is centered and i dont understand what is making it do that. any ideas?? can you adjust the lifters? they are just hydraulic right?
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you running OEM PUSH RODS ???
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Sportyeric
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Perhaps its bent. You should be able to rotate the pushrod when everything is in place. Doing so would reveal a bent pushrod.
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Kfry
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no they are stock and i could rotate it the last time i pulled the rocker arm apart. i just dont get what is making it clack against the side so hard
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Iman501
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i can vouch for the obnoxious noise it makes! the two of us were riding the other day, and its louder than his exaust! (dont you have a force pipe on it?). we got to figure this out soon so its good to ride to homecoming!!!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew a guy that bought an X1 and did some stupid things to the air filter.
Made a horrid racket after he did a speed run to test his mods.
I thought it was the crank bearings from the sound!
I helped him get it to the dealership with my truck.
It ended up being a screw that he left in the intake!
Embedded itself in the piston crown and was hammering the head.

He bitched and moaned and the dealership where he bought it paid for 1/2 the repair just to be nice.
Remember how I described him as a guy I knew and not a friend?
He was just kinda jerky all-around.
He ended up trying to make the X1 into a chopper.
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Kfry
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i believe that they are the tappets that are making noise the more i have read about them that makes alot of sense. but i dont know what an easy fix would be without tearing it apart. any ideas?
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Dinuns1
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only way to fix without pulling it apart is cut the bad cylinders ones out and installing a set of adj pushrods and covers ,loosen the seals and spin the tube and see if that helps
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