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Bremobiker
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been nursing this oil light deal on my original owner 99 S3 with 22K miles. Comes on when under acceleration and flickers a bit between 3-4K. Full on throttle and above 4K no light. I replaced the switch at the filter. Cleaned the ball valve at filter. I am guessing an oil pump issue, so am not riding till I get it. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

dan
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Jramsey
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pull the sender and plumb in a mechanical gauge, its the only sure way to find out whats going on.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Original oil pump drive gear? Or updated bronze gear?
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Bartimus
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the oil pressure gauge. It's the only way to tell for sure.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2010 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The wire from the sender probably rubbed through to ground somewhere.
When you hit the gas hard, the torque reaction makes the engine move a bit on the rubber mounts.
Feel up the wire from the sender, paying close attention to any areas where it comes close to metal engine cases or frame rails.
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Bremobiker
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good stuff, thanks. I was thinking of replacing my clock space with a gauge. Who needs a clock? I'll get a closer look at the wire as well, to see if it's grounding. FYI, original drive gear. I've had the bike since new.
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2010 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/ebutch/P10 10017-1.jpg
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Bremobiker
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good news. I pulled slack out of the sending unit wire, and re-routed the path to release some tension. That was the trick!

Still going for a gauge however. That's a rocking dash Ebutch! I've got CF to replace the plastic bits except the dash. Seeing your pic has me thinking I better go that direction. Gauge install is nice as well.

Thanks for the input, would have responded sooner, but I've been doing some carefree ridding.
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Terrycoxusa
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carefree ridding? I rid my cares too, when I'm on the bike.
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Bremobiker
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya... well, riding or ridding it's all good when the oil light is not flashing.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here's something I don't ever recall seeing before...CF S3 dash.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10-4-1997-2002-BUEL L-S3-S3T-carbon-fiber-dash_W0QQitemZ390182540091QQ cmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?has h=item5ad8b1133b
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wilson I got mine from America Sport Bike and it was vinyl with 3M stickum on back.No longer available. But this one does look real.
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Jim2
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want a clock
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's one on eBay for like $70. They guy is a price gouger though...

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-4-1997-2002-BUELL-clock_W0Q QitemZ390182535243QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_P arts_Accessories?hash=item5ad8b1004b
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and don't forget the harness...

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-4-1997-2002-BUELL-clock-wir ing-loom_W0QQitemZ390150516987QQcmdZViewItemQQptZM otorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5ad6c870fb
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Bremobiker
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess we're off topic now. Right. Checked with American Sport Bike, no more CF dash. I think I passed on buying back in the day, cause they were not "real" CF. Looks good though. The escam unit has a funky look to it.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These clunkers pump the oil at a lower pressure than a car engine.
Finding a sender with a gauge that works with H-D may be difficult.
If you find one that works, I would love to know.
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Huck_farley
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would an oil pressure gauge from a Harley dresser work? Could probably be found cheap as a swap meet item or take off from someone who converted to Dakota Digital dash gauges.
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use mechanical Sun automobile oil gauges 0-100 lbs for over ten yrs.rout tube from block to gauge in rubber tubing,windshield washer hose slit with wire ties,gauges in rubber pipe couplings held on to dash with wire ties.Warm engine S2T 24 lbs.S3 17lbs over 2000 rpms lower rpms 9 lbs min.Cold engine 70 to 80 lbs.
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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it possible to use the existing X1 sender unit and hook it up to a gauge, i.e., use the existing wiring for the idiot light and use a gauge instead?
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Electronic gauge is not accurate as mechanical in lbs,I think.But you Can.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The original sender is just an on/off type of thing.

I'm very surprised that 80lbs is read on a meter!

everything I have ever read said that the upp range of pressure was like 45 in a HD engine with the pressure at idle almost nothing.
This of course spooked me from experimenting around.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nate how close are you to the ocean?In land and unheated shed 15-50 Mobile V and Harley oil gets like molasses-syrup, may-be thicker even 90 lbs at 30F at start-up.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is with a Sun-Pro mechanical gauge,o-100 lbs.Used for over ten years on S2T.And on my Ford Truck elec. gauge it just shows pressure and not actual lbs,analog elec gauge.Does not vary like mechanical ga.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh at over 2500 rpms,Cold.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

60lbs at start-up 30F 1000 rpms.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

9 lbs 450 rpms 90F and 100F on S2T.Engine at fully warmed-up.S3, 4lbs less.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And Nate thats the way I work on My Buells Too.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guess every one has up-dated their oil pump drive gear to the -06 gear ???
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2010 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Over 127,000 miles have it on shelve.But have checked it and looks good and stays that way I Hope!!!!!
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Mark61
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A while back-early last fall? Court had written about the oil gage parts to replace the clock being available from Buell. I thought I saved the numbers but can not find them. Sorry!

mark61
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Bremobiker
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Mark, I'll search for the writeup.

And no, I don't think everyone has updated the drive gear, myself included. 22K miles.
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