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Ztferrari
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Howdy,
I'd put this in the knowledge vault but I kinda need a quick answer if possible.

My setup: S2, edelbrock RPM performer package (heads n cams), dyna 2000 ignition, mikuni hsr42 carb.

my bike was running ok with 27.5 idle jet, 160 main. Now that I replaced all topend gaskets, my bike runs really rough and won't idle. (i may have fixed a leak?)

I dropped down to a 25 idle jet but bike still wont idle (air screw doesnt affect idle nor does idle adjuster knob). The bike actually will idle with the choke on, but runs rough. I can get the bike to idle with constant throttle input.



Any thoughts/ideas? The weather here is perfect and I am eager to ride!
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Dinuns1
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check for an intake leak
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Dinuns1
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

or if you left a vacum nipple off
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Ztferrari
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The VOES line to the carb is capped off - no leaks there.

I checked the intake for leaks using wd-40 and carb cleaner while the bike was running (with choke on).

I also removed the carb and placed my hand over the intake, solid suction and holds for several seconds. If there is a vacuum leak it is tiny. I also tried startig the bike with a #40 pilot jet (i know, waaaay too big).


I did take apart the carb and examined the air-screw oring. It is in bad shape. I will replace it. Tomorrow I will double check the timing but I know this didn't altered.
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Dinuns1
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

itake checks should be done with no choke but if you got no flucuation , i would check fuel flow next could just be a coincidence , also you say idle screw is not making a change when you adjust it?
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Ztferrari
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the input Dinuns; Bike only runs with choke on. When I take off the choke RPMS die and the bike stutters. I can get it to run if I hold the throttle slightly open.

Fuel flow is fine, I even cleaned out the screen in the petcock.

Idle screw makes NO difference. Neither does the idle airfuel mixture screw. All the way in or all the way out. I am suspecting it is the small oring that seals the slow speed mixture screw.
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Dinuns1
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm doesnt sound likely but its possible one other thing ive seen is make sure the carb is seated in the intake manifold in the compliance seal
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883srfast
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Howdy Zt, I had a problem like this with my S2 and mikuni and found a small tear/rip in the carb intake seal to the manifold. It was small and difficult to see/notice without removing and inspecting it closely. Be sure you have you intake manifold aligned properly so not to put stress on the carb seal etc.

Good luck.
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Ztferrari
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

howdy back at cha...

The seal is new :-). no tears. New eldebrock intake seals (off topic, but that is a horrible intake design).

I will get back at it tomorrow. Plan is to replace that oring and check timing. Maybe see about a smaller idle jet
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883srfast
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zt, getting back at it tomorrow is probably the best way to go.......it will run just FINE soon.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is either intake seals or your slow jet is clogged. It should idle with no choke.
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Ztferrari
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats 2 opinions on intake seals...

I have to remove one of my heads to get to my intake seals (edelbrock intake)....The cheap part of me says to rip it apart and reuse my cometic head gasket -brand new-...the reasonable part of me says to order new ones?
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Ztferrari
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tore the bike apart: Intake gaskets looked good.

Put it back together with a 20 slow jet. Bike runs perfectly. Other than a little bit of leaking (i reused gaskets) its perfect now. Thanks for the help
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