| Author | Message | ||
     Buellisticx1 |
I had the primary cover open three years ago for replacement the chain tensioner and when putting primary case back on I put a new Primary steel gasket upgraded (new design). Now my starter gasket is leaking, has a small oil leak, an oil film over exhaust, not a Flood but I need to replace it by new style steel gasket. My question is if when putting primary case back on I need to replace the Primary gasket with a new one again or it can be re-used my primary steel gasket three years old? While I have the primary cover open anything else I should look out for?..What else is there to do in there?. Can anyone give me any of recommendation answering a mundane question?... Thanks in advanced. | ||
| Buell_bert |
I have heard you can reuse it but you ultimately make that call. Besides the tensioner just see how the fluid looks and do a visual on the rest. If it leaks your just out the price of the gasket, fluid (1 qt.)and your time (replacement and riding. Let us know how it goes. | ||
| Buellistic |
If you properly TORQUE the newer PRIMARY GASKETS they can be reused, "i" do ... Check the TORQUE on the MOTOR SPROCKET NUT ... Do the PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT on the clutch by replacing the GRENADE PLATE with two STEEL and one FIBER if you or some previous owner has not ... | ||
| Sportyeric |
With all due respect to Buellistic, I've got over 50k miles on two bikes and never had a clutch problem. If money more important than time, re-use the gasket. If it leaks you can replace it without having to replace the oil if you lean the bike over far enough. | ||
| Kalali |
I think the issue with the plate is its unpredictability. Some people have had no trouble other have. So it is more a matter of having a peace of mind than anything else. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
My S2 had 43,000 when I replaced the grenade plate. It was BAD. Very loose and rattley. My Cyclone will also get it replaced at about 45,000, it's also a bit loose (motor being rebuilt at the moment). Guess it boils down to rider, riding style, etc.. Brad | ||
| Buell_bert |
Maybe it has to do more about your driving style (or skill). I am much easier on the clutch,brake,shift and throttle now. I like to watch the Kid beat on His now. | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
My clutch works well so far so I don't think it's time to upgrade. When replacing it I will installing a HIGH PERFORMANCE EXTRA PLATE KIT ENERGY ONE CLUTCH BTX-11, I've heard great things about this Kit.... Thank you one and all for the input. | ||
| Oldog |
S-erik Several folks have, hence the advice, other than a narrower friction zone not much bad in doing it, I can think of 2 folks that had issues with the spring plate and had damage to the clutch basket parts your call, me well Mines out no grenade plate no problem. | ||
| Fullauto |
I replaced my riveted plate at over 40,000 miles and it was perfect. However, I don't do burnouts and wheelies and this is probably the difference. With the two steel and one fibre plate in, it's a bit more abrupt and not quite as nice as with the grenade plate. I've thought from time to time of going back to the grenade plate and just replacing it periodically. As for the standard clutch, I haven't had any issues at all with it so I don't think I'll be changing over to anything fancy when it does go south. | ||
| Fullauto |
Oh, yeah, I've had my primary cover off about five times. I still use the same gasket with no issues at all. However, it's a good idea to change the shifter seal each time. They're cheap. | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with me Fullauto. I will take into account...... Regards from Spain. | ||
| Rickie_d |
Now that Buellisticx1 is satisfied with the advice he received; I am a little afraid to ask, but curious as to what exactly is this “grenade” plate some of you are referring to? | ||
| Drhacknstine |
a Spring steel (slightly conical) plate in the clutch pack. It makes a softer (less harsh) engagement easy, or at least that is my take on it's purpose. And when my clutch needs work my grenade plate will hit the waste can, and a barnett clutch kit without grenade plate will go in(personal preference "Barnett"). | ||
| Rickie_d |
Thanks Pat – for the clarification, that is exactly why I was a little concerned about asking, I thought they were referring to the spring plate. Also you are correct in its purpose in the clutch pack. To the Audience: I have to say, with all the service and drive train modifications I have preformed in the 20 years since these particular spring plates were introduced, I have yet to see a failure of that particular part. In addition, it is not even a unique Buell part; it is the same part in the big twins and sportsters! This makes the Buell population running with this part in service absolutely minuscule by comparison. The only time I have ever seen one needing replacement is when the steel plates were warped, grooved, or blued; which nine times out of ten was because of worn friction plates or maladjusted throw-out bearing. Another curious observation is that of all the aftermarket manufactures producing friction and steel replacement clutch packs or individual parts, they do not make a replacement spring plate. As a matter of fact they all rely on the stock component with the exception of the “extra plate” sets that actually replace the spring plate. This really seems contrary for the market not to capitalize on an opportunity for a part that is supposedly such a consumable. Contrary to what one might think these extra plate kits are not offered to replace an inferior part such as a spring plate! The true purpose is an economical way of increasing friction surface area within the confines (dimensions) of the existing stock clutch basket. These kits are intended for more abusive, higher TQ/HP applications without the expense of a $550 pro clutch pack or $1500 + basket/pack assembly. By the way, these extra plate kits ARE far more abrupt than stock. I know, because I run one on my big bore S2, and comes with a warning (every time) the few I let ride it before they turn the key. “It will spin the tire off the line, with very little throttle (right off idle) and if you don’t get the fact that is spinning, when it hooks up, its “To The Moon Alice, To The Moon!!!”” (Message edited by Rickie_d on December 26, 2009) |
