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Brinnutz
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:40 pm: | 
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What's wrong with the rear tire being a 180?
A 180 is fine on there.
I've rocked a 180 rear ever since I got my M2 with PM's.
And the Sportmax's aren't the best tires IMHO... |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:51 pm: |
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Nothing would be wrong if the rear tire were a 180.
The tire that's on there is a 160/70-17. Being stretched onto the 5.5" rim flattens it out and pushes the already too-tall sidewalls up into the fender, making contact. The sidewall itself is about 10mm taller, and on top of it, it's sits pretty much vertical on the rim rather than leaned outwards like it should.
I only picked the Sportmax to match what the other dealer installed on the front, since that's probably what they'd want to put on there. It's going to depend on what they wrote it up for as for what other tire I could get. To be honest, I'd probably just prefer that it matches the front for the time being, anyways. |
Scott_in_nh
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:51 pm: |
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This thing has a 160/70-17 rear tire on a PM rim.
he wishes it was a 180! |
Brinnutz
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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No doubt...I didn't see where it said 160 in the thread. Damn, I'd be bitching then too! Wow. |
Kalali
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 03:10 pm: |
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I am actually not surprised the dealer is finally doing the right thing.
In my opinion, the ONLY reason for buying a bike (or car for that matter) from a dealer is the limited warranty period. Which if you think about it, is the ONLY reason to pay the extra $ to buy from a dealer in the first place. At the end of all this, those guys will still come out ahead given how much they usually offer on trade-in. Zero sum game all around. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 05:22 pm: |
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My dealer just picked up the bike - the guy who got it is a tech and said they'd try an easy out for the broken bolt (I told him I didn't think it would work). He says that welding something on it may warp the head and keep a gasket from holding on the thing - doesn't sound likely to me, it being a pretty solid piece and bolted down to other things, but he said they might just write it up for a head. Not sure the other dealer will be willing to pay for that, so we'll see how this all goes. |
Jramsey
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 09:31 pm: |
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I realize you are dealing with a dealer thru another dealer to get your new to you bike fixed but........ the tech is full of SHIT pure and simple............. I wouldn't let him wax the brush guard on my weed wacker..
The minute heat that a the weld creates will break the the thread locker loose at best and the gaskets will suffer no damage whatsoever.
I have done these type's of repairs for a living for the last 35+ years and have never yet been beatin' by anything brought in the shop.
I LOVE IT when people call and ask about removing extractors that they broke off.
I tell 'em been a lot cheaper if they hadn't screwed with it in the first place.
As said before you're trying to get it fixed under warranty, so I hope they get you fixed up. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 09:37 pm: |
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It sounded like BS to me as well. I plan on talking to the Service Manager and the tech that's going to do the work just to let myself feel better about all this.
Supposedly the guy who's going to do the work is the same guy that "works on all the old stuff", so I'm hoping maybe he's been around the block some and this doesn't phase him.
Everything is a simple remove/replace job, but this broken bolt is a real wildcard. |
Scott_in_nh
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 08:41 am: |
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It was all checked out by Buell techs, and one of them is "really into Buells" I was told.
Supposedly the guy who's going to do the work is the same guy that "works on all the old stuff",
You are about to get disappointed again....
Have you considered a refund in the amount of the needed repairs and doing the work yourself? |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 09:48 am: |
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You are about to get disappointed again....
Have you considered a refund in the amount of the needed repairs and doing the work yourself?
Already asked - they only want to do this through an authorized Buell service department to try and keep things official.
I have no idea who's actually going to do the work, this was just the driver's opinion, not the Service manager. I am going talk with the service manager, the service writer and the tech that will be doing the work. I mean, really, the only thing that's difficult about the whole job is that damned bolt. But I want to make sure they know the belt is supposed to be loose unlike an HD or XB, and talk them through modifying the -79D isolator because I'm not going through this again in 3 months. I think we'll be alright... |
Kalali
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:46 am: |
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Glad it is moving in the right direction for you and you will have a nice bike at the end of all this. And besides, with the way the weather is around our neck of the woods, I would try not to rush them and let them do the job right the first time. All the best. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 11:56 am: |
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I'm not going to rush them, but I was looking forward to a little wind protection for the last month or so of regular riding season. At this point I'm just going to have to hope that it's all set for spring. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 09:51 am: |
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November 25th and the work is finally done. Nearly a month after I bought the bike...
In the end, they tried calling me a liar twice by claiming I knew about the tire issue and refused to do anything about it, so all they did was repair the front isolator and related issues. I worked with my service manager and got them to install the -79D part, so hopefully that will hold up well.
I pick it up today - riding the 1125 over to get it since that needs a clutch cover fix anyways... |
Scott_in_nh
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:54 am: |
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November 25th and the work is finally done
For your sake and sanity I hope so, but considering you do not have it home yet - I can't help but wonder if you spoke too soon!
Good luck - they are great bikes! |
Koz5150
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 04:20 pm: |
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If it makes you feel any better, I have been through 2 isolators and snapped two headbolts on my 2002 (orange and grey) M2. I backed both of them out with easy outs, did the repair at home myself in a few hours. It sucks, but is pretty common on these bikes.
On the plus side, I think you got a fair deal on the price and it is a great looking bike. I hope you have fun with it! |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 09:21 pm: |
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Got it home - repair looks good, all new hardware, bike rode good as well. Hopefully I can put some more miles on it before the snow comes.
Couple questions...
1) When I have the idle adjuster set to around 1100-1200 RPM when it's hot, the idle is real low when it's cold and starts pretty hard. Is this normal?
2) The shifter feels really tight and vague. So tight it hurts the top of my foot to shift it. Would a worn bushing be the cause of that? |
5liter
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:39 pm: |
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Mine does the same thing when it's cold. Can't help you on the shifting. Mine was the same way new, but after the 500 mile check it was butter smooth. |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:49 pm: |
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Also Mark I,d check cluch adj. to spec in shop man.Don,t know what oil in trans,primary?I use Mobile syn. trans.And do you use sport cycle boots with shift aria on toe.+about 14,000 miles trans shifts better. |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:58 pm: |
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Bank shifter is a high mark upgrade!!! |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:09 pm: |
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PS Try run up idler a couple of turns for starting and return when warmed up.I fed ide adjuster to air cleaner aria to make easy adjustments.  |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:44 pm: |
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The clutch doesn't seem to drag any, but I'll check it. I have no idea what trans oil is in the thing.
Good call on the idler routing. I figured the ECM would adjust for the temp but I guess not. Having it on the right side makes adjustments easy as you can do them on the fly by just pulling the clutch, no? |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 07:24 am: |
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While you are checking the clutch adjustment I suggest double checking the fluid level as well. Prolly the same as your XL set up, but fluid level can make a big difference in shifting.
+1 on synth fluid too, if the dealer replaced the fluid in the tranny when they received it they may have just put Sport Trans in there, it's not great stuff for promoting easy shifting in my experience.
The stock updated shifter on your bike should work better than the old style, maybe not as good as Banke, make sure it's adjusted for your foot and perhaps compare angles with photos of other shifters on-line.
(Message edited by littlebuggles on November 26, 2009) |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:21 am: |
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Yes as stated above trans fl level is critical as to fact spec.Follow the Book!!!S3 are a great 1,2 up all day sport Tourer!! |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 08:43 pm: |
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Mark I like to run 500 rpms when engine is warm and 1000 rpms when cold.I 1999 - S3 have factory Race Package.
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Xl1200r
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:39 pm: |
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I don't think Sport Trans fluid is even available anymore, is it? I thought everything was Formula+ by this point. I have no idea what's in there. In any case, checking the fluid level is more of a pain the butt than just changing it, so maybe I'll do a full oil change on it anyways.
Shifter feels good for my foot, and Butch - I am using a moto boot with the shift pad - still painful on the upshifts. The lever will wiggle a little bit with no problem and I can see all the parts aren't bound up, but there is a little movement in the bushing, so it's either getting cocked on the shaft or the clutch/fluid level needs altering. Just wanted to make sure it's not normal.
Can't wait to get some miles on this thing. Supposed to be sunny and in the low 40s on Sunday - sounds like perfect riding weather. |
Ebutch
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 09:58 pm: |
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Mark I,ve got a friend that says his BMW shifts hard!He wares sneakers and does,t have a clue.Told him to buy riding boots says he can not afford.Has two new cars,thee bikes and says his accountant told him he must buy something big for tax purposes.Bet That 1125 shifts Sweet!Oh I showed him my riding boots they are BMW Boots.Keep at it you will solve it!!!If you are like me I don,t give ever!!!!Pull Some GGGGGGGs Butch |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 01:34 am: |
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Well my experience Mark is that they will usually scour the back rooms of the shop to find some sport trans instead of putting in synthetic like I ask them to. It's happened whenever I've had them check out my tranny.
I think they have a secret stash somewhere.
For those that know, is this difficult shifting a symptom of a shifted detent plate or lost spring clip from that part? |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 05:10 pm: |
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Changed the oil and primary fluid - turns out the primary chain was too tight. The shifter now feels vague still, but not as bad as before and clicks between gears much easier now. |
Xl1200r
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 12:40 pm: |
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Well, i can finally say that the drama is over. To top off all of the friggin' communication breakdowns I already had, my dealer did the work without getting paid by the selling dealer ahead of time. When I came to pick up the bike, I had to get the bill paid, but where I bought was closed that day, so I reluctantly shelled out my own cash for the repairs and would take it up with the selling dealership to reimburse me.
I told them I had paid the bill and they need to send me a check, not my local dealer. What do you know - after a week of playing more phone tag, a check for the wrong amount shows up to my dealer.
Unreal. I decided to just forget about the extra they owed me as I was too tired to keep messing with this crap. I have my money, I have my bike. Life is good.
BTW - for anyone that's interested:
The dealer I bought this bike from is Laconia Harley-Davidson. Needless to say, I will do my best to spread how AWFUL they are a dealer.
They even sent me a Christmas card... I think it should make a for a good firestarter in the fireplace here. |
Kalali
| | Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 11:49 am: |
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Glad too see a happy ending....
It is a great looking bike. Keep the shiny side up.... |
Doug_s
| | Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 11:28 pm: |
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beautiful bike. yust get rid of that gross looking sticker on the right saddlebag. 
doug s. |
Court
| | Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 11:47 pm: |
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Sweet looking S3. |
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