| Author | Message | ||
     Kalali |
This may sound totally awkward but I have this theory that the nature of the spooge out of the breather and collected in a catch can says a lot about how the motor is being fed with air and fuel. Sort of like checking the urine during annual check up..  Having said that, I have been watching the color, texture, smell of the spooge every time I empty the catch can. Sometimes it is thicker with a light shade of green and sometimes it is thin and less green. It varies with the ambient temperature and time of year. I am assuming the shade of green has to do with the pollen in the air (?) and the viscosity is probably more a function of the moisture in the air and may be the air/fuel mixture. The last time I emptied the can (about half hour ago) it had a very strong smell of gas and was more wattery. Almost to a point to burn the eye if you got close. Now, does any of you think there is any correlation between the spooge and how the bike is running, i.e., too rich, too lean, etc.? Why would the spooge have such a strong gas smell? What does your spooge look/smell like!!?? (Please o laughing). Thanks. Forgot to add that vital signs like AFV, EGO, etc., all seem to be OK. Right around 100%. (Message edited by kalali on October 22, 2009) | ||
| Brinnutz |
LOL, dude I have got to laugh... Last I heard, if your splooge is green, you might wanna see a doctor...especially if it's smelling like gas.  | ||
| Gbackus |
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| Pkforbes87 |
hehe.. he got you there  mine always has a faint smell of fuel, and consistency always seems to vary with the type of weather I've been riding in. | ||
| Jramsey |
Kalali, that is 1 funny post | ||
| Kalali |
Can you imagine taking a small sample, in a cup to the nearest HD dealership and showing it to the "service adviser" and ask for his opinion??!! Look on his face would be priceless...  | ||
| 5liter |
I'm so old my spooge is dusty................ | ||
| Oldog |
Here blue, lets have a sample, humm looks like gravy and water smells like gasoline and oil, yes its . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Spooge! Kal man if your spooge smells of gas, you need to get your moonshine from some one else, | ||
| Ranmar850 |
Some people just have motors in their blood,----------and, apparently, other bodily fluids :-). I have noticed that, since I have put a non-return valve in the breather line, I have nil "splooge" in my catch bottle. My theory is that splooge is mostly formed after shutdown, when the cooling motor draws cool, moist air back in through the line, and it forms by emulsification with traces of oil in the line and around the breather outlets in the heads. So when you start up next time, it comes out, big time, into the catch bottle. If you fit a non-return valve in the line, the air cannot be drawn back into the engine internals. Any oil which has been breathed out during operation , will, of course, emulsify to a certain extent in the bottle, but if your motor isn't breathing oil in the first place, you get no muck in the catch bottle. When I first fitted the ham-can to the Buell, the catch bottle filled up quickly-fitted the non-return valve, and all I get now is a tiny trace of water. Ditto for my Norton. | ||
| Kalali |
First I hope my use of the term did not offend anyone. I just couldn't find a more appropriate alternative term. Anyway, the thing is folks who still have the stock breather set up seem to complain a lot about oil all over their air filter and intake box and I have never seen any oil in the can. That's why I was curious. And the real strong smell of gas made me wonder is there is something in there that is not working properly. Looks like I need read up on how the breather system works to better understand what's going on in there. Thanks for ALL your input. | ||
| Andymnelson |
lol, I just...um...eject my spooge into the open air. Call me an exhibitionist, but I don't feel a need to conceal it.  Seriously tho, don't worry about it. Has mostly to do with air temp, humidity and riding style...less to do with how your motor is functioning. I don't like the thought of having to empty the catch can, so mine goes to the ground. It only spits any out on full throttle, so I have never had any on the garage floor or anything. | ||
| Richsm2 |
where can i get this valve? | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
it's a PCV valve used in any automobile breather application. Just bring a length of your breather hose to a parts store and tell them you want a PCV valve that will fit into that size hose. It's basically just a one way valve. Has a check ball inside that will open and allow moisture, oil mist, and "spooge" out, but closes when the motor breathes back in to prevent outside air and contaminants from entering the engine. The alternative that I chose was XB rocker covers with PCV valves designed for the XB motor installed in the top of the rocker boxes themselves. Then I just have a small breather filter on the end of the hose/catch can to keep outside contaminants out. Breather filters are also available from any parts store. | ||
| Kalali |
Is there a downside for this PCV set up? Just so that I understand this correctly, the valve goes right before the catch can (one valve) and stops the flow of air going back into the heads from the can/breather filter. Correct? | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
Doesn't really matter where the valve goes, but all of the stock setups use a valve either inside or next to the rocker cover. A stock tuber breather setup doesn't have a PCV valve, but uses umbrella valves inside the middle rocker box. The umbrella valves serve the same function as any automobile's PCV valve or the XB's PCV valve design which is integrated in the "turrets" mounted in the top of each rocker cover. This is purely my opinion that I've developed through experience, but I think the only downside to the risk of an extra PCV valve or a too restrictive breather filter is the extra strain on other top end gaskets. When the pistons rise and fall pressure WILL be created and it has to go somewhere. Your stock breather setup is designed to vent that pressure, but at the cost of splooge in the airbox. I've tried various breather setups and (again - my opinion) it caused my intake gaskets to leak prematurely. For a while I was replacing intake gaskets every 3-4k miles, but since going with a simple Pegasus catch can and stainless breather filter, with minimal hose length between the rocker boxes and catch can, I've had zero intake gasket issues. | ||
| Kalali |
Thanks PK. I think the catch can is quite convenient and having to empty the thing at about every fill-up is not a big deal. Besides, as funny as it may sound, the splooge does give some clues about how the bike is running. For example in my case, the very strong gas small was definitely in line with the soot on the front plug. Hmmm, now if I had separate cans for the front and rear.....  | ||
| Smoke |
xb rocker covers with the pcv valves really help the splooge situation. or do the Buellistic mod by fitting the xb pcv valves to the existing rocker covers. tim |
