| Author | Message | ||
     X1_ |
Throttle body assembly- I am assuming you mean the butterfly/ Known problem with known fix Belt- They go bad can't really go any further with that one Rocker Box Gaskets- Known problem with org. paper gaskets with a very simple fix Front Exhaust Mount- Known problem with a known fix, I think this was a recall item ECM- Could be one of many problems, but im sure Buell probably took care of it for you and if not ECMspy is a beautiful thing Im not sure if you are seeing a pattern here, I do. | ||
| Tom_b |
Yeah i do junk parts to start with or they wouldn't be problems..HELLOO, how complicated is that. throttle body shaft breakage, $200.00 for the throttle body plus my time removing the old one and replacing it. then having to have the tps reset 80.00, back before ecm spy was available. Broke belt, stranded, had to have truck come get me 3 hrs work plus belt. rocker boxes leaking and base gasket leaking, had friend fix for 150.00., that was a bargain. stealership wanted $400.00. Front exhaust mount $100.00 from American spportbike as buell said one was not available for 6 months. ECM, shot 250.00 for a new one. solved the problem. NONE of this was warrantied according to topeka H/D Also if i had known there were this many problem with a low mile supposedly quality bike i wouldn't have bought it in the first place. Almost forgot voltage regulator, left me strande twice, $100.oo for the voltage regulator, 2 hrs of thime getting home and changing it out. (Message edited by tom_b on July 17, 2009) (Message edited by tom_b on July 17, 2009) (Message edited by tom_b on July 17, 2009) (Message edited by tom_b on July 17, 2009) | ||
| Dpg |
Court: What torque wrench fits the nut up on top? I have 3/8 and 1/2 click wrenches and an old reliable Thorsen 1/2" torsion bar wrench. None of them fit in the space where the nut is found. In fact, I don't recall if just a standard height socket fits in the space available. Torquing from the bottom on the bolt head allows for some of the torque to be lost along the length of the bolt whereas torquing a nut against a stationary bolt/stud should provide a truer setting. I can't imagine the factory assembly line used a crow's foot adapter socket during the original build. Original isolator had 25,000 miles on it when the bolts snapped. Re-installed the isolator since there was no cracking or separation and I'll keep a mileage tally on it. Safe ride, Gary in Oaktown | ||
| Fasted |
CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW. REMOVE STRESS IN YOUR LIFE. SELL THE BUELL, BUY SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS TRULY AN INVESTMENT.CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW. REMOVE STRESS IN YOUR LIFE. SELL THE BUELL, BUY SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY AN INVESTMENT.CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW. REMOVE STRESS IN YOUR LIFE. SELL THE BUELL, BUY SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY AN INVESTMENT !!! or accept our bikes for what they are, and deal with it. | ||
| Spiderman |
Anyone that buys a bike for an investment is a fool... I have a pretty rare S2, well anyone that has one has a rare one, and Since I got it in MId June I am at 1500+ miles and will continue to pile miles on it! But I am going to replace the isolators soon so get on it guys  | ||
| Riviera |
"I have several friends that own buells, most of them have a love/hate relationship with them."... Tom_b Well, I tend to like that in a relationship. It keeps it interesting, like my marriage... and I wouldn't trade her for Megan Fox either. | ||
| Capital_g |
My last bike was a HD Softail. I lost the bike in a fire when it had 25,000 miles on it. I rode the bike on several 1000+ mile trips and one that was 4,000 miles. The bike was as reliable as any bike ever made. I did small maintenance stuff to it but when it came to major stuff (I had headwork cams etc stuff done) I took it to an experienced mechanic. One day I was having a discussion with him about the bad rap HD has for reliability... it was his opinion that a lot of people that didn't know what they were doing were attempting to work on them and creating problems. I am a DIY'er but sometimes experience counts for a lot. Not trying to down anybody that works on their stuff just saying that some problems on these bikes are the result of inexperience, can't blame everything on the bike. And yes some DIY guys are very good and some paid "professional" mechanics should find another profession. | ||
| Tom_b |
Fasted, I've been dealing with it for six years ownership and just wondering when it is ever going to quit.. If i could get $3,000.oo cash for it, it would be gone.. Probably going to part it. "Anyone that bikes a bike for an investment is a fool"... Spiderman. Didn't buy it for investment.It would have been nice for it to hold some sense of value. | ||
| Spiderman |
It would have been nice for it to hold some sense of value. Buy stocks, houses and/or properties. OR Never ride your bike and hold onto it for 40 years... | ||
| X1_ |
You can get 3k out of an X1,pretty easily actually, now I think you are just bitching to bitch. | ||
| Gowindward |
Hey Hey Hey...I didn't know Megan Fox was in the deal for trading your Buell. Where is this trading taking place at? Oh and will she do dishes and the laundry too? Heck she is probably high maintenance too...better just keep the Buell. It will be less headache and never take me to court. | ||
| Oldog |
What does bike value have to do with isolators? I have had numerous minor problems with my X1, BUT I can fix it ( most of the time ) the isolators are a problem that the factory MUST address, the DS part failing means that the other players may be having problems or other issues exist [ on the bike in question ] good luck on your trip My personal experience has been, that beyond basic wear out items if you ever break a Japanese built bike bet ready to spend some money and time sorting it out. | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: View from a MECHANIC's eyes(HARLEY-DAVIDSON UNIVERSITY CLASS OF 1959) ... There could be POOR "QUALITY CONTROL" on suppliers of the FRONT ISOLATORS ??? Improper assembly of the FRONT MOTOR MOUNT and FRONT ISOLATORS(do not expect it to get done better if a technician istalls)is IMHO the problem if the ISOLATOR are not of poor quality ... "Well what the "BUELLschitte" do "i" know ???" Lets see now: Have a 108,062.75 Miles as of the last ride(1997 S3T) ... Off and on over the years "i" ride two up with the wife ... We are both over weight and to compensate "i" had a 500 pound rated spring made for the rear shock for the extra weight(still running the OEM SHOCK because "i" know how to use a magnet) ... The bike came OEM with a -79B isolator and when it went bad it got a -79C isolator(ie: 2nd FRONT ISOLATOR in "12 YEARS and 108,062.75 miles, what the hell could "i" be doing right ???)... When the -79C goes bad it will get the -79D ISOLATOR simply because it has a "D" after the YEAR !!! The bike has been to a dealer twice, in 1998 when "i" bounced off a car and in 1999 at STURGIS for a rear tire and the rest of the time "i" am the ONLY ONE that touches my bike ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! NOW LET THE "DEBATE" RESUME !!! | ||
| Easy_rider |
As far as depreciation, I generally expect vehicles to lose half their value every three years. I believe it's been a little worse than that over the last few years. I'd expect motorcycles to be worse than cars/trucks as well. By those standards, I think tuber owners are doing very well. Without any empirical data on hand, my guess is that we're doing better than most. As far as isolators, I see three camps: 1) I'd like to get a Buell, I see an issue, and I'm concerned as to how I'll be affected. 2) I have a Buell, and isolators are not meeting reliability expectations and it bothers me. 3) I have a Buell, and in the overall scheme of things I'm willing to deal with a regular isolator change. As for group #1, Buell has a great track record of taking care of issues. Note that the community has options. Also note that other brands have issues as well. My belief is that some day in the future we'll look at this as a minor speedbump. Applying recent history to new models may not be appropriate. Group #2: Don't blame you. At this point I'm not sure why anyone would be a -79C. I hope to see continued feedback on the DS and -79D options. Remember, Buell has a great track record of taking care of issues. Group #3: Don't hate on the rest of us because we're high maintenance. Enjoy your ride. Keep reminding us of the joy a Buell can bring. Check back here before you buy your next iso in case there's an improvement. Since we see each other's Badweb ID on a regular basis it's easy to attach a degree of familiarity that we'd assign to someone we see personally on a regular basis. I'm probably as guilty of that as anyone. I think I see a few instances of the receiving end taking statements the wrong way. We all stop here for different reasons. Some to learn, some to help, some to vent, some for the social aspect. All of those are combined in this thread. I could well be wrong, but seeing two different answers from a Barry rep makes me believe that the combination is generating results where any singular approach would have had lesser success. Let's try to keep that in mind when getting agitated with the other members. | ||
| Easy_rider |
Here's an ugly question: Could problems in torquing the iso lead to premature failures? I had to get that out.... | ||
| Limitedx1 |
how did this go from a front isolator question to another my buell isnt worth anything thread.....  if ya dont like the buell sell it and buy jap scrap metal. | ||
| F_skinner |
Plus 1 http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/478437.html?1247840505 | ||
| Blackm2 |
Has to be torqued from the bottom, Just did it yesterday. DPG, the torque value will be reached from either end as you are holding the nut from the top with a 3/4 inch open end. I used a 1/2 inch clicker with a 3/8 adapter, 3 inch extension, an articulating adapter and then the 3/4 socket. No problemo. I sent pictures to the guy at Barry last night regarding the isolator breakage. The usual failure for aged isolators come as a horizontal tear along the bottom. These newer ones seem to be tearing straight away from the center shaft. He gave the heads up to the Harley/Buell accounts so we'll see where it goes. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Watch out OLDOG! Saying things like "The factory must address" You'll get F Skinner up in arms again....  | ||
| F_skinner |
Hugie03flhr, please refrain from post that are an attempt to start something. Thanks | ||
| Buellistic |
easy_rider: TORQUE'ing is part of assembly(IMHO bar torque wrenches are best and if you say you like the "CLICK" type better, tell me "PLEASE" how often do you get them "CALIBRATED") !!! Putting every thing together finger together is part of assembly !!! Letting the properly assembled parts take the weight before properly torque'ing(motor mount, front isolator, and rear isolators !!! Just because the TORQUE "SPEC's. state a MIN. to MAX. torque, MIN. torque is required, "BUT" you do not have to torque to MAX., why you say, well if it stays tight at MIN. torque why would it be necessary to do the MAX. torque ??? REMEMBER THIS: sometimes you have to be born knowing if you look at the torque spec's. and see that they are wrong, ie: FACTORY MOTORS MANUALS(after market manuals also) !!! This is very important when doing metal into "ALUMINUM" !!! MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Buellistic |
READ EVERYTHING HERE AND MOVE ON TO POST - OLD SCHOOL BUELL; ISOLATORS RE-VISITED ... (Message edited by buellistic on July 17, 2009) | ||
| Naustin |
CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW. REMOVE STRESS IN YOUR LIFE. SELL THE BUELL... That's exactly what I did. As soon as my wife gets 5-8,000 miles behind her on the Blast, I'll be getting rid of that too. I will not tolerate mediocrity. | ||
| Court |
>>>I will not tolerate mediocrity. So you participate in threads like this? Go get'em tiger. | ||
| Ebutch |
Some people would sell there Soul!I stayed with BSA to the End.That,s why I have a Buell, handles like a British Bike .But oh my God,The Torque Pull Some GGGGGs!!! Butch!  | ||
| Fast1075 |
I am as fanatical about my stuff as my budget allows...none of my bikes has ever pleased me until I either came to the end of the modification road, or someone begged me enough to sell it and start a new project. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
^^^^^ +1, i never leave anything stock, so im wrenching on it anyways. just replacing worn parts as i take them off to get to something else | ||
| Fast1075 |
My last total project bike was a '73 Kawi Z-1....When I sold it...the only remaining stock parts were the forks...wait...they were not stock...I had the legs turned..the clutch cover was stock...noooo I milled it down....ok the cases were...nope...ok...got it...the primary shaft in the transmission was still stock  | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
My Buells handle very well and are fun to ride. If all I have to do to keep on riding them is replace a front isolator from time to time, that will be just fine with me. I seem to be having a problem with rear tire wear too..... | ||
| Whitex102 |
+1 on rear tires ( ; |
