| Author | Message | ||
     Gowindward |
"You guys are jinxing the tubers man!"I think it is bad bike karma to even look in on an iso thread. LOL | ||
| Bartimus |
LOL, you guys are cracking me up! Frank, Well put, I too, drink the Buell Cool-aid, and it tastes so sweet! With 4 tubers in my stable with some high miles, I've still only replaced abut 4 isolators. Recently, I've run into the "bad" isolator issue, just before the S2 gathering when I noticed the isolator on S2 #3 was cracked. I bought one from American Sport Bike, which lasted about 750 miles. (too soft). I've been afraid to buy the harder/stiffer isolator because I'm afraid of breaking my front mount bolts, as I've seen happen to others. (not sure if this was due to a stiffer isolator) I did install an isolator from a '99 S3 that had about 30,000 miles on it, just so I could make it to the gathering, and it's still holding. I am still looking for an alternative, but it's not going to make me sell my tubers, and buy a honda... On a side note, I did have to replace the front iso on my '08 Uly at 14,000 miles. it took two trips to the dealer to convince them it was going, and they did finally replaced it under warranty. (And I have bought a Honda to replace my Uly... Due to other issues)  I don't think anyone should be beating up Court on this, he does NOT work for the factory. Although he is one of the most informed people I know of when it comes to all things Buell. I'm sure the Buell community will pull together and research this problem, as they have in the past. An answer will be found. Putting the blame on BMC isn't going to resolve anything. They don't make the isolators. They just spec them out. | ||
| F_skinner |
(Message edited by f_skinner on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Easy_rider |
Naustin, Have you got the Lord part number on that iso? Drop it here or PM me. Thanks. | ||
| Phelan |
This reminds me, where's the input from the people who have installed the Stenzel bars? BTW Loren, I agree. Luckily my bike is parked for rebuild anyway and already happens to have a bad front iso. I have DS ISO in the closet that I'm not hesitating on installing. I hope to only put a few thousand miles on the bike before I tear the top end off for performance reasons anyway. | ||
| F_skinner |
(Message edited by f_skinner on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Ebutch |
Home brew bar I found it added some vibes took off,but yet to try bar with soft iso.On my S2T buell iso works best 22,000 mile life.Hard iso vibe nasty.S3 hard iso works fine.S3 67,000 miles only seconded iso. (Message edited by ebutch on July 14, 2009) | ||
| Guell |
Im going to buy a billet mount, use the ds iso along with the don casto bolts that i have. | ||
| Ebutch |
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| Ebutch |
http://www.stenzel-parts.de/14375/14321.html | ||
| Ebutch |
I may have miss-judged it will try bar with soft iso. | ||
| 5liter |
Mine vibrates pretty bad at the beginning of the season and then mellows out. My iso is torn about 1/3 of the way around the front. I have a stock iso I bought from American Sport Bike, but I haven't put it on. I don't ride to vigorously and don't pop the front end any. Might just leave it alone and see what happens. | ||
| Gowindward |
I had two OEM iso's fail with the DYI Stenzel installed. I threw it on the garage floor when I had to return home on the way to the S2 Gathering to replace the iso. I think it's still there too. I was doubtful when I made and installed it, but figured "German Empirical Data" could be worth something. Oh well. I'm thinking take it and the four iso's and making some abstract art project out of the whole mess. | ||
| Easy_rider |
Wait 'till this winter. We'll get a Buell hockey tournament going! | ||
| Ebutch |
Well you talked me out of that Loren! Give address I,ll send you my 2 bars for your art project.  | ||
| Naustin |
Easy_Rider: Naustin, Have you got the Lord part number on that iso? Drop it here or PM me. Thanks. Sorry, its already on the bike. Put it in tonight. The Old isolator is worse than I thought. The separation is only 270 degrees, but there is a huge tear in the center on the bottom going across the diameter of the interior of the part where the center sleeve is located. I couldn't see it until I got it off the bike.} | ||
| Fasted |
skindaddy, i think we are on the same frequency when it comes to our bikes and time and space wasted by some on this forum. thanks for your post. it is nice to know that someone else gets it. i've already had webbers ask me "get what?" wonder if they will figure it out... anyway, thanks to those of you who have compiled our isolator database. i am not quite as squiddish as i was when i was younger, so i haven't had the pleasure of a failure or a replacement YET. if/when i do, this thread will certainly help me thru it | ||
| Jramsey |
Nick, good to see you again on the Bad Web. 98 degrees 90 % humidity here today ... just a tad cooler than 50 weeks ago when I bought your S3T. (Message edited by `J.ramsey on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Naustin |
Hey James, The weather is nicer in Minnesota. Its in the low 60s this morning, but it will be 72 and mostly sunny with low humidity today.  Perfect. Too bad I have to work. I rode the Blast last night briefly with the new -79D part. (I did not have to ream the sleeve, btw. It was a perfect fit with the Blast's hardware.) Vibes in the handlebars were much less than with the previous broken isolator. Only time will tell if it will hold up, I guess. Hopefully my wife or I can get some miles on it before we head for the Black Hills later this summer. I hate to put her on this bike with what amounts to an experimental part for a week long trip without knowing for sure that it isn't going to fail. I don't trust it one iota at this point. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Skinner, Why do you bust my balls when all you friends substantiate everything I said! Then you got the balls to say they're working on it? WTF. I think your drinking to much of Buell's something....and it's NOT cool aid! | ||
| Fast1075 |
Naustin, I have about 1K miles on my Blast since I installed the 79D iso...extremely hard, aggressively ridden miles with no problems at all. | ||
| F_skinner |
(Message edited by f_skinner on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Dpg |
From your profile I see that you are the proud owner of four Tubers and a Uly. I am indeed envious. With a stable of back-up Buells at your disposal you are in a unique situation in which if one of your bikes is out of commission for whatever reason you still can go out and ride. That isn't the case for many of us and perhaps that is why the concern is different for those without second-fourth bikes, inability (skill/space/tools) to work on their own bikes, or even having a reliable Buell dealership available to do the work if we had the funds. My M2L sat for MONTHS not because I couldn't do the repairs, but because after coming to this forum for information I could see the same situation I have with my old Sportster. I have friends into old British bikes and they throw tons of money at doing repairs and rebuilds to keep these classics on the road. Right now, as much as I love the Buell (have a Blast too I salvaged) mine isn't in that 'classic' category yet. I finally made the decision to spend the bucks and do the NRHS mount in the hopes that will keep me going until Winter LOL! I'm finding this thread, as all the other previous isolator threads a real help. Let's not start slamming each other since we're all in different situations financially and our mechanical abilities. Safe ride, Gary, DPG | ||
| F_skinner |
(Message edited by f_skinner on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Brinnutz |
Once I rebuild the bike, I will be using the replacement Buell part and installing the Stenzel bar from Europe. Reports from over there have been nothing short of awesome and more reliability from what I have heard from the maker. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Yes, my question too Court was speculation on a 6 year old bike having a wear item wear out. According to you this is "FAULTY LOGIC" that I'm concerned about a wear item, wearing out and not being able to replace it... What is so hard to understand???? | ||
| F_skinner |
(Message edited by f_skinner on July 15, 2009) | ||
| Oldog |
a shame to see this squabble. the DS iso softens up after a time, I had to go through the test of the broken bolt, Its fixed and I am riding if it breaks again then I will notify the board. spending the coin to up grade the mount and the other stuff sucked. as I see it. 2 fixes now, A. new billet mount, ds iso, new bolts ride it B. 79d drilled to 1/2" install and ride longevity TBD the out come of either is unknown, Buell has been notified of the problem and is said to be working on it outcome to be determined. calling COURT "OUT" was in-appropriate he is not a buell employee what things like that will do is drive away our annonys and folks like Court who contribute to the Board. There is a problem and there is a solution, some work is required in either case. bickering solves nothing. from the porch the old dog... | ||
| F_skinner |
Oldog, you are correct as always. I will refrain from posting. I apologize to everyone that had to read this crap. Sometimes I get back into that 1Sgt mode a little quicker than I would like to, and I know that is not an excuse. Again, accept my apologizes and please continue with constructive advice and analysis of the isolator issue. Frank | ||
| Preybird1 |
Glad to hear you are riding again oldog. I am still using the stock iso on my x1 it is still working for me. +1 on calling out court was a mistake The only thing that i don't like about the xb isolator is the price. If my memory serves me right the new xb iso has a better bolt that came with it to beef it up. |
