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883srfast
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello S2 enthusiasts, anyone have any jetting tips.......
Elevation approximately 1100. The S2 is stock with a Vance and Hines ss2R and a Nallin Hurricane backing plate.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Phelan
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only Suggestion is to send the Mikuni to me and I'll give ya my CV in trade : D.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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883srfast
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you for the helpful jetting tips and useful suggestions.....
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F_skinner
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

883srfast, I cannot give you any help but I know Al at American Sport Bike can. I am looking at replacing the carb on the S1W with a Mikuni as well. I would be interested to hear any results.

Frank
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Phelan
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if you bought that backplate from a sponsor or an non-sponsor, but both of them use Mikunis and could probably help you with tuning advise.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Michael
It should run good out of the box. I have one on my 1250, zipper modified heads, 536 redshift cams, Vance&Hines and it is still rich. Somewhere in the 12:1 to 12.5:1 air fuel ratio area.
Joe

(Message edited by bad_karma on July 14, 2009)
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have one on my RS, (which is cleverly disguised as an S2!) but it's a special unit for use with a fuel pump and Aerocharger, so I won't be of much help to you. I think Joe is correct that it will probably be close right from the box.

AL
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883srfast
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frank, I ended up looking in the Knowledge vault some and there were a few notes there and installed it with a larger Pilot jet (No. 27.5). Had to close the air screw some too, about 5/8 in from 2 turns out.....to about 1 3/8
Ran very well with the 97 jet needle at clip position 2 and the 160 main jet right out of the box. Just a bit lean with the 97 at clip position no 2, so I raised it one notch to position no. 3 and it ran so well I rode it well into the night!! Nice carb.
Thank you for your interest....right out of the box worked very well just needed a little adjustment or two......
Michael
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883srfast
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Joe, thanks for the useful info.....I don;t have an air fuel mixture sensor/guage etc and did it by the method described in the tuning manual. It was a cool low humidity evening here and I may have ended up being a bit rich too. I'll see how it works today in the 80's and higher humidity.
Michael
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883srfast
Posted on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al, thanks for the advise to give it a try right out of the box.....ran well and was very close right out of the box
Michael
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Michael, thanks for the info. I am good with the CV 40 on most bikes but to make more than 80hp I need something better for the S1W.

Frank
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Bad_karma
Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Michael it is amazing just how much time I spend on the needle circuit. Not surprised that you had to raise the needle. Glad to hear that it work out for you.
Joe
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883srfast
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frank, updated info. As I suspected with the first idle mixture setting it was a bit rich being only in the low 60's and 50's and not waiting long enough for the engine to reach normal temp. I was too anxious to get on and ride! Anyway, the screw is now backed out to the stock setting at 2 turns out and it warms up fully and quickly too with better throttle response etc.
I now have it with a 27.5, idle air screw out 2 turns, 97 needle at clip position no. 3 and the main is stock 160. Going for a ride for a couple of days into the WV mountains and am looking for the see how the carb does with altitude changes.
Thanks for the support.
Michael
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883srfast
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Joe, it is amazing how sensitive the needle setting can be and I have found the stock header with the Vance and Hines muffler to respond to adjustments very well. As I mentioned to Frank, I had the idle mix too rich. Now with idle mix closer it is running very well and now I can just ride in the sweet spot of the needle in corners with excellent throttle response....makes for great cornering control etc.
Thanks for the support Joe and I am looking forward to enjoying the S2 and the BadWeb more in the future.
Michael
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah yes, the WV Mountains (or as I called them when I lived there; Hills)

I was stationed at a Navy base (I was Air Force) in Sugar Grove WV (NSGA Sugar Grove). I had a 97 S1 then and would torment the super fast rice rockets on the roads that I rode every day, twice a day. I think the road was 33 that came out from Harrisonburg VA all the way to the small town by the base. What fun!

Thanks for the info. I will be looking to get one when I have some cash to play around with.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUELLers:

"i" do not "GUESS" about my settings of IDLE MIXTURE SCREW, LOW SPEED JET, NEEDLE, and HIGH SPEED JET ...

"HOW" YOU ASK, well "i" set them with a FUEL/AIR GAUGE in the REAL WORLD ...

MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!!
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Easyrider
Posted on Monday, July 20, 2009 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellistic, that's the way to do it.. even when i dynoed mine with 2 O2 sensors in it, i noticed, that there was 60% of the fuel going to the front cylinder and 40% to the rear. so whatever i did the rear was always lean compared to the front, it was even worse on full throttle.

i took the manifold off, and worked on the rear site to give it more fuel then the front, after 3 times it is 50/50 now.

then i adjusted the bike, it runs like a kitten now.

i think one of the reasens the older tube buell have big problems with too much heat on the rear cylinder is fuell. i had my s2 with 300 miles on it and dynoed it directly. i have now 9000 miles on it, my rear and front headers have no blue color at all.
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