| Author | Message | ||
     Blackm2 |
Creature, does that DS part have the flat washer built into it like the updated part? | ||
| Jramsey |
I don't shop at wally world either. | ||
| 5liter |
Front mount from American Sport Bike that I got today.    | ||
| Tripp |
that's the right tuber part - the ta is for a blast. | ||
| Oldog |
does that part say china or usa? If its china, then the DS part makes sense If usa then the buell part. | ||
| Tripp |
i did mine a few months ago L0501.2 is made in the usa! | ||
| Oldog |
I just called HD/Buell CS, the comments were Rear Isos, ok? Tie bars tight? abuse, hard landing wheelies.  Who me? Strusel Strut? hever heard of it. | ||
| 5liter |
16207-79B molded into the rubber on the bottom of the mount. Made in the USA is on the bag the part came in (Message edited by 5liter on March 04, 2009) | ||
| Gowindward |
Okay, so it's really bad karma to participate in Isolator Threads. I road my S3T to work this morning. Lots of vibration in the bars and foot pegs. I checked the front isolator once I parked. It's SHOT!! Stenzel strut and all. Crap! So much for that data point. I picked up the L0501.2 part at the dealer at lunch time. It will be interesting to see what kind of "wear" marks are on the Stenzel strut mounting holes. | ||
| Riviera |
Maybe just the bag itself or the sticker on it are USA made, but contain an offshore-made part?  Seriously though, I looked at my '01 S3 front last night and with 11k miles it looks to be A-OK. I'd like to see clear, close-up photos of how these normally fail. What happens with support system when they fail. And what could happen for a worst-case, catastrophic failure of the front isolator? | ||
| 5liter |
No "Made in China" stamp on the part. | ||
| 5liter |
Maybe these guys make them: http://www.barrycontrols.com/defenseandindustrial/ productselectionguide/data/productSeries-ee0ba7a3- 5128-4100-9064-e94b6da90dfe.aspx | ||
| Blackm2 |
OK, Gowindward, 5liter, Tripp, Al, anyone who said that L0501.2 is the correct part, is.....CORRECT! I called HD/Buell this morning, talked to a nice lady named Ann told her what is going on, what is being said. She checked her numbers and came up with the ...79D I said that is what I went into the parts store with and we compared both the 79D and the TA, identical parts, both need drilled. She had to do some research. As I was at the dealership, she called and confirmed that the L0501.2 is the correct number. And it is made in the USA. She gave me a bulletin number BPAB #32 which is supposed to explain the differences but apparently it is not updated in any computers at the dealers. So long story short, 79D IS WRONG as is any part that you should have to drill on. Thanks for everyones input. | ||
| Gowindward |
The source! http://www.barrycontrols.com/defenseandindustrial/ productselectionguide/data/productCategory-516dced a-c7f1-46bb-a06c-3817973cc4f7.aspx | ||
| Buellisticx1 |
My previous L0501.2 ISO that I bought from American Sport Bike has lasted less of 2 years (10K, very premature isolator failures). As said Oldog: the normal failure is that the "neck" inside the bracket stretches and then rips (on the bottom of the mount). Any separation of the rubber and the steel is a failure. I think the rubber materials is crap. I ordered the Harley part-16079-79D. The only job I will Need is drill out the center bolt hole to fit. This new ISO seems to be strongest and resistent, keeping in mind this isolator 16207-79D is used on the Harley-Davidson BIG TWIN Engines ...    | ||
| Newbuellertoo |
How can I tell from looking it at it on the bike if it is shot. I only have 25,000 kms. on the bike and its 8-9 years old. The bike vibrates a little more than other tubers I have seen ( at idle) but I didn't own it when new so I don't know what it would feel like. Will jacking up the front of the motor to take the weight off give you a good enough look to see if it is pooched? | ||
| Gowindward |
Newbuellertoo, Take a flash light and look at the under side of the isolator. Look for deep cracking or splitting of the rubber. Mine have all had the cracking on the rear side of the isolator. After reading and looking at the specs on the Barry Controls website and Olddog's wheelies it has me thinking of another solution. Picture a plate on top of the isolator with ears that stick out and rubber bumpers on the underside of the plate to hit the frame surface the isolator mounts to, when an over travel or overload condition occurs on the isolator. Looks like time to go see Mcmaster.com for parts. | ||
| Gowindward |
Here's a couple of failed isolators. I put a new one on the S3T this evening.   | ||
| Blackm2 |
Go Windward is that an original or has it been replaced before? Now that I have these two in my hands, the L0501.2 does have noticeably softer rubber than the 16207-79D/L0501.TA I wish they would make one like the 79D that you don't have to screw with. Need to place phone calls or emails to somebody. | ||
| Creature_x1 |
Black m2: NO the DS number does not have the flat washer built into it. It is identical to p/n L0501.2 . Yes it it made overseas. I support U.S. made parts. I also support buying parts from your local shops. The Drag Specialties part is a quality alternative to waiting for special orders that take a long time. That part from Drag only takes at most 5 days to get(I got mine in 1 day, no shipping charges). It is also good for the guys who despise going to the Dealership. Just trying to help some fellas out.  | ||
| Gowindward |
Top photo was original on bike and failed around 4000 miles. The second photo was a replacement (A L0501.2 OEM Buell Part) that has maybe 1500 miles on it. | ||
| Jramsey |
Loren, if you haven't trash canned the old ISO yet, please measure the the rubber OD and post. BTW I measured my drilled & installed upside down -79D (S3T) tonight and it measures with a 6" machinist rule .720 from the top of the head bracket to the bottom of the ISO/frame mount area which is by eyeball the same when I installed it 1,500 miles ago. I checked my X1 that has the original front ISO (paint spot still on the bolt threads/nut with 9,000 miles and shows no sign of fatigue) and the distance measured .510 yet the front tie bars on both bikes are dead parallel with the oil filter,.......go figure? | ||
| Gowindward |
James, Metal insert measures 1.752" OAL. Rubber measures 1.410" OAL. From the surface that mounts to the frame, the steel insert measures approx. 1", so that has it extending below .750" The rubber height above same mounting surface measures approx. .725" and rubber below same surface is .675". You mentioned installing the -69D "upside down" because you didn't want the thinned insert bearing on the motor mount casting. My bike has a fairly thick washer between the motor mount casting and the isolator. If yours is missing the washer that could explain the tie bars looking the same on both bikes. With the problems your bikes previous owner had with isolators could explain the missing washer. | ||
| Riviera |
Gowindward, are you planning to order a replacement from Barry Controls? Let us know what you find. | ||
| Gowindward |
"Gowindward, are you planning to order a replacement from Barry Controls? Let us know what you find." No, just doing research to better understand cause of failures, and maybe ways to prevent. I could not find a direct replacement in The Barry specs. Our isolators could very well be a proprietary design part for H-D only, but it does look some what generic compared to parts I found on the Barry site. There is a yellow dot on the L0501.2. From info on the Barry site that indicates rubber durometer and load rating of the isolator. All interesting stuff. | ||
| Blackm2 |
This one looks the closest. http://www.barrycontrols.com/defenseandindustrial/ productselectionguide/data/productSeries-ae5398ce- dcd0-4c37-91b5-a18a81b56643.aspx So these guys build industrial and defense strength mounts but they can't make this one go longer than 10,000 miles. Complaints really need to be documented so they can do something about it. | ||
| Limitedx1 |
anybody know the correct part number for getting it through barrycontrols. or do they make them for buell? looking at the list on their site the 500sl has a load rating of 0-920, what about the 500 series that has a capacity to 2700??? looks like the bottom would need trimmed a bit, but then would that seperate the rubber? | ||
| Gowindward |
Real estate...Those higher load mounts are much larger than the one used on our bikes. There is not enough space (real estate) in the frame to take on a much larger isolator mount. | ||
| 5liter |
Here's a pic of mine. It's the original and has over 40,000 miles on it. It shakes a bit when cold but seems to settle down for the rest of the season.  | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My first one lasted a long time too. Mine have lasted about 15,000 - 20,000 miles on average. That's taking into account a dud that only lasted 6000 or something. |
