| Author | Message | ||
     Malott442 |
Man, that thing feels awesome as hell... The meanest looking buell put out since 98... Would you guys hate me if I got one? | ||
| The_italian_job |
Are you seriously comparing a CR with an S1???? | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
I'm a big fan of the CR too... Haven't ridden one yet but itching too... I won't sell my X1, so I have to find a way to have both!  | ||
| Joesbuell |
I'm with you Mate  tuffest Buell since the S1!  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Every time I see one, I think to myself "that's the new S1". That bike is attitude on wheels, and I can't wait for a chance to ride one. | ||
| F_skinner |
I just saw one in person at New River HD in NC. As I was looking at it I could not figure out how the front light put any light out. It looks like it would shoot straight down. I looked at it from the side and saw how it worked. It is a cool looking bike. It did not remind me of a S1 until you guys said something about it. I think this is going to be a good seller. I am still waiting for the Sport Touring version of the 1125 platform. Of note: I was wearing a Buell shirt when I went to the dealership to see the CR and one of the sales people asked me if I worked for Buell. I asked him if he asked that of everyone that walked in with a HD shirt. The guy behind the parts counter said something about he wished they did not have to sell Buells. I agreed with him, I wish they did not sell Buells either. Some dealerships really do not get it. BTW: No one approached me and my brother as we looked at the Buells. As soon as my brother looked at a VRod they were on him. Back on topic. The CR is one sick bike. | ||
| Brinnutz |
I dig it. Saw my first one at the MotoGP in Indy, when I rode up to the Buell truck on raceday. I could ride my bike anywhere I wanted to go, while my buddies had to park and walk. I got hooked up! But, I love the CR's looks, and power. If there was anyway I could afford it, I would, but I just looked at mah check and I made less last year than what new sticker price is on one of them things. | ||
| The_italian_job |
i honestly don't see any similar between those 2 bikes. i think (and i own one) that the S1 was one of the best and better looking bikes ever made in the entire market! it's a timeless machine... when i look at the CR i see a bike with those lateral air intakes, so big that the bike loose the proportions! and me and my buddies tried to figure out how to reduce those intakes, but there are so many things hidden underneath those scoops that is like talking about impossible mission! i still can't digest the new line (1125R and CR), putting the radiators on that position and hiding there so many other things, in my modest opinion, it was a wrong decision! | ||
| Malott442 |
Well, of course everyone has different tastes Italian...... This is how the S1 and the CR compare. They are the most aggressive model, they are the most stripped down, and they both oooze attitude. I personally like the radiator scoops and headlight. I think that anyone that tries reducing them should contact Buell Engineering first, because I'm pretty sure you are going to void the warranty or at least lose a LOT of cooling. | ||
| Texastechx1 |
I've ridden the 1125R & CR... and even though I LOVE them both...... I just can't justify selling the X1, it ain't gonna happen. | ||
| Stoked |
I can't see any similarities at all. Only thing attractive about it to me is the significant power increase. The design from the front looks exactly like our vacuum cleaner at home. That head light is taken straight from a vacuum cleaner and the side shoots look like the succer part. Fix those two issues and looks like an XB which looks ok to me anyway. | ||
| The_italian_job |
stoked, you got that bike! we call her Jumbo Dumbo... | ||
| Ratbuell |
Cosmetically, totally different bikes. Wasn't my point at all. *Conceptually*, they're from the same bloodlines. Obviously different approaches and different solutions to the same questions, but I can completely see how the CR is the "S1 for the new century". Attitude, agressive styling, everything you need to go fast and handle great, nothing you don't need. Oh, and my S1W is sitting patiently in the garage right now, waiting for a nice day. See? I'm also familiar with the model. | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
putting the radiators on that position and hiding there so many other things, in my modest opinion, it was a wrong decision! I agree they are unattractive, but they were put there for design/engineering purposes. They allow the engine to be set farther forward and allow for better airflow into the radiators. Air-cooled bikes have always been better looking than water-cooled bikes anyway. I own a tuber because I preferred it when Erik's ideas also resulted in dramatic good looks, so even the XB's are only just ok to me in the looks department. I think the design may grow on many of us over time,the white and blue 1125R really isn't too bad, and new better looking models may appear. Until then if you want a bike with radiator placement based on style, then you will be happier with a V-Rod.... | ||
| The_italian_job |
test ride a v-rod not so long ago, not the bike for me! but i'd see much better a V-Rod engine in the CR frame! i'm a romantic, big Buell fan (as all of you!) of that Buell idea you were talking about Scott. i think many of us, when rumors said a new Buell with liquid cooled engine was coming out, were expecting that V-Rod engine to be on that bike! instead what a big disappointment? the bike can ride as a champ, but what's the point on buying a bike that is not pleasant at the sight? you know how many beautiful and with great rideability bikes there are in the market? at this point, i have to go toward another brand! next season rumors say the XB will be discontinued and we'll see the new XB series with the rotax engine, let's see what's coming up, but i'm afraid it won't be what we all are expecting to be! i write also on an italian Buell Forum (www.tribu6800.com/forum Court know us very well) and nobody, as saying NOBODY is happy with the look of the new bikes! we'll see... | ||
| Preybird1 |
I don't like the radiators either, I remember someone here calling them front mounted saddle bags lol. | ||
| Joesbuell |
Some people just don't get it! | ||
| Jstfrfun |
I think I'll stay X1 forever. | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
I like The Vrod engine well enough Edoardo, but it does not belong in a Buell, it is too big, too heavy. The new motor is by all accounts a winner, I would have preferred that it be manufactured in the USA though. I do agree that I have to like the way a bike looks - the mechanical art of the motorcycle is a very appealing aspect and a big part of my fascination with the sport/hobby/lifestyle. I must say that my moto-tastes are umm, simpler than yours though, I think less is more - you think more is more (lol)! This is probably a good thing as I could not afford your taste anyway! ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Malott442 |
+1 hehe | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
"Some people just don't get it!" Hehe, give them time. Remember when the S1 came out and everybody hated the enormous air-box? And the rear hugger/guard? IMHO... *I* think the CR is the closest Buell to the S1 in spirit so far. When the S1 came out there weren't a lot of bikes to compare it too, it was one of the first "factory" streetfighters, along with the M900 Monster (Monstro) and the T509 Speed Triple (I'll discount the T300 Speed Triple as I think it was more cafe racer than streetfighter). The S1's styling at the time was a little unusual too, not everyone loved it, but it was certainly "in your face"  . These days the CR has much more competition and we're used to seeing streetfighter style bikes (XB12S, Benelli TnT, Speed Triple again, KTM SuperDuke etc etc), plus people expect more refinement as Buell gets bigger, so it would be hard for Buell to produce something as radical now as the S1 was when it was released in '96. From the S1 things were softened a little in the styling to produce the X1, then a little more agressive for the XB_S Lightnings. The CR steps the agressive stance up a couple of notches, and I think it's a worthy successor to the spirit of the S1 - it's unusual, it's small, it's light, it's aggressive, and man would it be fun for ripping through the traffic on the way to work or hunting Duc's and CBR's up Mt Mee or Mt Glorious  . Visually, the R and the CR are pretty advanced designs, they push the boundaries of what people expect (the radiators in particular) and it will take time for some people to get used to them, and some people will never like them. If Buell had come up with something that everybody thought was ok, it would probably be a design that would age very quickly. (I also think the R and the CR are bikes that are hard to photograph well.) I'm hoping Buell will bring out a CR in white with blue wheels and a set of blue headers...  | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
PS I'm not having a go at anyone, everyone has their own taste, but I truly think the styling of the new bikes will grow on a lot of people over time, and I think that is what Buell intended. (It took me a long time to like the XB's when they first came out) | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
Another fan of the white and blue! Good post Lemonchile, and I agree, but would point out that airboxes and huggers can be changed, those radiators do not have a known cure! I think there is hope for the R & CR, they need a podunkadunk tail to balance the radiator boobs along with a slim, sexy, curvy, polished exhaust. If our friend Edoardo considers himself a visionary artist then I challenge him to make a good looking R or CR! Or are you admitting you aren't that good? | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
Haha, the gauntlet has been thrown People have done some pretty wild things with XB's and tubers, I'm itching to see what can be done with a CR. Saw a blue and white 1125R in the flesh for the first time on Tuesday, looked even better than the photo's. White and blue CR would look great parked next to this:  | ||
| Ratbuell |
The thing about the radiators (R or CR) is, you don't even *see* them when you're on the bike. *That's* the point of view I care about. | ||
| Jstfrfun |
Hey chili! Does that thing have a white tail?!! Or is it the lighting again? | ||
| Mikeyp |
Why couldn't Buell design those radiators more like an RC51? Those elephant ears kill the whole look of the bike for me, and one of the other major reasons why i put a deposit on a 09 Ducati 1198s. I have to be just as equally turned on by the look, as i am by the performance. The 1125 class may have the performance, but the look....no freekin way. (Message edited by Mikeyp on December 17, 2008) | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
*That's* the point of view I care about. Looking at your profile I call B.S.! Performance counts for a lot, but the look, feel and sound are right up there too! | ||
| Texastechx1 |
EPIC WIN!  This was posted over on the XB forum (Noobs). In the looks department, I prefer the X1/S1 tubers over the XBs and the XBs over the 1125s. there was a guy here that put a CR headlight assem on his tuber... it looked good! | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
"Hey chili! Does that thing have a white tail?!! Or is it the lighting again?" It's because I played with the photo (again), it's not intentional though. It's a standard tail, not painted. |
