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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok i posted this on the quick board and got no response worth looking at, So here is the question. What is the maximum wattage i can run without damage to wires,housing,or connectors

I know its supposed to be 55/60w
What about 90/100w
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Dfbutler
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check PIAA website, they have bulbs that draw lower wattage but put out higher wattage.

http://www.piaa.com/Powersports/bulbs.html
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Texastechx1
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a bulb that puts out 100w on high beam, haven't had any problems so far (2002 X1, 10,000 miles).
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

really i was going to try it but i wanted to be sure not to damage the bikes wiring or connectors, This is what i was trying to find out.
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Wardan123
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sorry preybird1. I was just kidding. I did suggest that you should investigate HID lights as a low draw and higher output of light type of option.

Oldog also posted that he has info in the knowledge vault about this...

Again, I am sorry if offended.
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey dont be sorry i was just messing like you were. I was looking for the thread in KV but no luck yet.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I have had a 100w HI and 55w LO since early 06, with no detriment to the wiring.

The housing I dont know... these are aftermarket lights..

Chase
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Fullauto
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I run a 100/130W globe in my standard X1 headlight and have for some time. No flat battery and no charging issues. I also run mini relays on both circuits to make sure that all the juice reaches the globe. Makes a huge difference to your light output. It's not legal here in Australia, well, not my state anyway, but I don't think you'd ever find a cop who'd take your headlight out to check the wattage.....
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have seen some reports, can't remember if it was here or not, that using the HID kit with a headlight lens designed for standard halogen lighting results in a poorly focused light.

I want to ask those of you who are posting your experience with various lights to please specify whether the wattage you are using is the actual wattage of the light or the equivalent amount of light.

In other words is it really a 100w bulb that uses about 7 amps at 14.5 volts or is it a 60w bulb using about 4 amps but due to a more efficient design it puts out the same amount of light (and therefore less heat) than a typical 100w bulb?

I don't ride much at night for a variety of reasons, but at the top of that list is because my night vision is not what it used to be and the unit in my S3 does a poor job of illuminating the road.

Better lighting at a reasonable cost/effort would be great!
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which size is it again we use?

Is it H4 or H7?? I can't remember right now.
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe it is H4.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott:
If the hid lamp is not in the correct position then the light is not well focused

it depends on the lamp system used, I have a moving lamp setup with a detent for low I try to make it a point to cycle HI/Lo once before I move the bike.
I have had issues with the HID going out at restart due to a weak battery or bad interrupter switch (used for restart)

light output is quite good before I upgraded the bulb to 100W high output
I would consider a hid system.
the folks that made mine offer hid low, h3 hi beam as an option.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow full auto thats a bright light. I installed the 90/100w With a 6000k color temperature super white last night, But i forgot the before picture so i could not tell if it was any better than the stock bulb the light was not orange anymore. And i can feel the heat from it 3 feet away at the center of the beam! I just turned it on for 30 secs.
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Fullauto
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. I noticed the heat as well. I would think though that the relays made nearly as much difference as the globe itself. If you look at the wiring diagram, you'll see that there's quite a bit of wire between the battery and the globe. I ran wires directly from the battery terminals to the relays placed just behind the bug screen and used the original wiring for the switching. The light output is not just noticeable, it's impressive.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, December 12, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

considering that I do not ride much at night I think a better bulb, probably Sylvania as there are proudly made right here in NH, along with new wiring and a relay is the way to go.

I already have one relay under the faring for the ignition - plenty of room for another.
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