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Bernd
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the M2, I'm not seeing any oil burning or leakage, yet I have to keep topping it up. Is this normal?
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When do you check your oil level ???
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Bernd
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've only had the bike on the road 1 week. The first 3 days I just drove around town for a shake down feel etc. Changed the oil twice to flush it and then put in 5/50 100% synthetic for the 4 day trip. On day 2 I thought "check the oil, what the heck" I was shocked to see it not register on the stick, so I topped it up and continued to top it up every 3-4 hours. Don't see any burning or leakage. When I pull the stick and look into the tank, I do see vapor swirling around. Could it be evaporating through the vent tube?
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much are you adding when you top it up? How do the plugs look? What's the level in your primary? I can only think that the engine oil is getting by the crank seal and into the primary. By now, though, it would have blown out the vent and onto your back wheel!
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Bernd
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My primary cover is stained around and down from the small inspection cover. That's new. The vent hose over the rear wheel is dry. I just threw the bike into the shed after the trip. I'll look at the plugs and drain the tranny today to check fluid quantity. I added about a 1/4 quart every 3-4 hours. Bike runs great, no clutch slippage.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the way "i" check my oil level ...

After a good ride, still running on the side stand ...

When you first pull the dip stick out it indicates the oil level when running up right down the road ...

When you look into the oil filler hole, the oil should be one inch from the side stand edge, which when setting up-right gives you a two inch air space ...

QUESTIONS ???

(Message edited by buellistic on September 21, 2008)
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Bernd
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I drained just shy of a quart out of the tranny so that indicates it's not transfering oil from the motor to the tranny. No leaks, no burning that I can see....mmmmm
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's blowing oil out of the breathers. You're probably running the oil level too high in the oil bag and in the process of self leveling itself, it blows out of the engine breathers in the cylinderheads.

Try running the oil level lower in the oil bag. I run my oil level below the lower mark on the dipstick, never above it. To keep the internal capacity up, I use the longer Dyna filter. This cut oil consumption down by a remarkable amount... about 75% I'd estimate.

Keep a close eye on the level if you try this.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This info pertains to my experience with my 2000 M2, btw. Your results may vary... but it's free and it's worth trying.
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Bernd
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will try that. The "Dyna" filter, is that off of the Dyna HD model or something else?
Engine breathers in cyl. heads, where does the oil go from there?
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Proper way to check oil level in transmission:

Both wheels on level ground, Bike perfectly up right ...

Transmission oil should just touch the SPRING,diaphragm PN 36792-91 ...

If the oil rise's above just touching the SPRING, this is an indication the MOTOR SPROCKET OIL SEAL PN 35151-74A is bad and needs to be replaced ...
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The "Dyna" filter, is that off of the Dyna HD model or something else?"

Just ask for the long filter at the dealer.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not use the filter that you can get at Wal-Mart ...

Lot less expensive and do the same thing ...

"i" have used Super Tech ST8A for years ...

Comes in BLACK ...
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Bernd
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2008 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This could be interesting. I'm using, if memory serves, a Fram 6022 meant for, if my information is correct, a Ford Ranger. Sorry for being so waffle-ee. Man, I sure hope the HD dealer doesn't bend me over like the BMW dealer does, I'd be really disappointed.
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Jon960
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2008 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep the Fram 6022 does it for me also (in black of course)
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Bad_karma
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What does your spark plugs look like?
Joe
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Bernd
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will checkem this weekend.
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Buell_bert
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Fram PH6022 is the one listed in the Fram book for the Buell M2 2000 (Probably 98-2002 at least)which is black. And they have a chrome one also about twice as much and the number is PH6022C.
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