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Bald_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have ecmspy and cable and have an eeprom that was sent to me that i was told was a x1 race map but if i load it my bike wont start.... i think i am doing this right because when i reload the stock eeprom it starts right up....what gives what am i doing wrong
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Id like to know too.
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bump for maps
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

awe come on someone has to have a race ecu for an x1 that can pull us a map.....please
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 06:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You save the Eprom file Text in the Eprom Folder ECMspy and then open it from the software ECMspy and load it to the bike "You have to load the file text only", not file EPR.

Very Important:
Remember,always after of load it you must to make a TPS reset.

Good luck!
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well thanks for the info....but.......BUELLISTICX1 what you said
#1 does nothing to further the thread...
#2 makes no sense in that we know how to load and save we are looking for maps from another ecm.
#3 thanks for wishing us luck....
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a race ECM, but have never needed to use ecmspy. Someone tell me a good place to get my hands on a cable and I'll get the race map to you.
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see you are working with the Eprom race I sent you a few days ago.
Well, what I can say to you is that I have two Buell ECM, Race and USA stock, I loaded the Eprom Race to ECM stock with no problems, currently I'm running with an USA ECM with the Eprom Race loaded in and it's working very well, with no problems as I said. I have sent a lot of Eprom Race to guys of your country and they never had any problem and they to were very grateful with me.

Anything is wrong, I don't know.........
If you want I can send other one.
Regards.

(Message edited by buellisticx1 on September 17, 2008)

(Message edited by buellisticx1 on September 17, 2008)
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wait......buellisticx1
did not say i was not grateful...
#2 tried loading eeprom you sent
will not start,
tried loading the maps on the eeprom but not the eeprom,
starts but only idles and pops
thinking maybe its cause there might be a difference in the eeproms but maybe i am wrong,
and i am sorry if my earlier reply was misunderstood it was not a shot at you you just confused me with what you said...
i am very grateful for any assistance i get on here....

buellisticx1 i do have a tendency to come across rude in text sorry for that....guess i should try and sound....nicer

(Message edited by bald_bueller on September 17, 2008)
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sure there are quite a few of us here with stock ECM and in need of the maps for the Race ECM. I have no doubt my bike (with V&H and high flow air filter) will run much better with a Race ECM but I am in a bit of $ crunch (who is not?) and can't spend the $250 to get one. Just being honest.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Warning!

There are 2 generations of Race ECM the later ones are built from newer parts and there may be issues.

I have the older one I believe and have copied the prom I will try to get the files out this weekend pm me with your addy if you want it,

BTW if the bike starts look at the table values and the TPS / AFV
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Kalali
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oldog, what you said then begs the question as how would one know if one has the "later ones" or not?
I am really keeping my fingers crossed that your '01 and my '00 X1 share the same ECM...Please say yes...
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are there any legal issues with sharing buell fuel maps? I would assume not as long as the ecms are no longer produced by buell.

Any way to tell if a race ecm is old/new from the s/n ?
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pkforbes87, take a look at Knowledge Vault (tech, parts, apparel, & accessories topics) ยป Manuals, Alerts, Tech Bulletins, Upgrades & Recalls, there is a Service Bulletin B-017 May 6, 1999 about early DDFI ECM

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/B017-263564.pdf

Bald_bueller said:tried loading the maps on the eeprom but not the eeprom,
starts but only idles and pops;
This are exactly what happening when only you try load the fuel maps and ignition curves on the eeprom X1 but not the eeprom. This only happening with X1 ECM and not with XB. If only load the fuel maps and ignition curves during the burning maps to ECM the transmission cut out and it says "transmission timed out" , but only if you load the eeprom everything will run well.

Try loading the eeprom only.

sorry for me english.
Regards.
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buellisticx1 you are a bountiful mountain of knowledge!!!
so i warm up the bike to operating temp,load eeprom, cycle ignition switch,then reset the tps, then reset the afv to 100%, cycle switch again, attempt to start, set idle , rip it like i stole it
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are right, it's just what you have to do. this way It should running
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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't quite understand the "cycle ignition switch" step. I assume you mean you turn the bike off and restart it again..Right?
Sorry, I am just getting ready to play with the software and want to make sure I am not missing any of the critical steps.
Thanks.
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Bald_bueller
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cycle switch means turn key off then on again
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Mrsinister
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cable I got off of ebay had an X1 map from 2000 that is the race ECM prom I am told from the seller. I took the plunge today. I had saved the old prom away and such so I loaded the one from the CD I got according to what has been discussed here and so far all I can say is wow. I think I am going to like this. Runs much better from the little I have got to ride on it. Plugs look dandy so far so good.
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Creature_x1
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

man, I need a copy of that race eeprom, I have a stock ecm and a empty pocket. Any once care to donate?
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a race eeprom, but know how to do it?... or how it works(ECMspy)?.....

e-mail me buellisticx1@yahoo.es



(Message edited by buellisticx1 on September 25, 2008)
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Creature_x1
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, I got three emails today with eeproms attached. I love this tight knit community! Thanks guys.
Oh and yes I know my way around the ecmspy. Its like a pirate (kinda) version of the digital tech the dealerships have that only dealerships can carry. If only this worked on Harley Delphi systems.....
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Buellisticx1
Posted on Friday, September 26, 2008 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we are here to help and share our experiences, Badweather is a great Buell forum.

Regards.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just to address a previous question, yes it is illegal. If the Race ECM is discontinued, then its a bit of a legal gray area.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Correction Frog, it's only illegal if sold, not if given.
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Selling or giving is irrelevant I believe that the content of the eeprom is copywriteable or is copy write protected,
as it constitutes "intelectual property"

On another note we are technicaly tampering with part of the fuel system and there are emissions regs that prohibit that
The tubers are no longer produced so I have doubts about any repercusions provided money is not changing hands,

reselling the XB eeprom might bring down the mother ships' wrath

YMMV...
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