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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Title should have read EBC rotor not to spec.not SBC,can't edit the title.

Received my new front rotor for the S3T yesterday.
I removed the old warped rotor,checked the bearings and polished the wheel while the rotor was off.

Installed the rotor and mounted the wheel on the bike and then disassembled the caliper to replaced the O-rings.

Every things going great so far, so I bolt the caliper up and go to insert the pads and notice the inside pad has more clearance than normal, so I try to insert the outside pad and no go.

So I measure the space between the rotor and caliper on each side and the rotors off center .040 to the right.

So and easy fix is to face off .040 off the left wheel spacer and things will be fine so I think.

I go to insert the pads and neither one will go in now... WTF?

So then I measure the caliper to rotor distance and its .393 both sides so I measure the pads and they measure .401.

Square peg round hole thing going on here, anyway I milled .010 off the face of the pads and they slipped in perfect.

Bled the system and went for a 50 mile test ride last evening and all is well.

BTW the drilled EBC rotor does make a neat whirring sound when the brake is applied.

(Message edited by J.ramsey on August 14, 2008)
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It kinda sounds to me like the pads were the real problem - which ones did you use?

I think I remember hearing of this problem before with Lyndall pads - one of three reasons I went with EBC HH.
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran EBC HH in my 99 S3 w/o any problems.
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My EBC rotor went on without a hitch, but the Lyndall pads did need to be shaved a bit.

I too enjoy the whirring sound - after initially getting freaked out by it.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reminds me of the Whirring sound from my Hurricane Flow A/C on the 1200S (before it blew up) and the Forcewinder on the S2. I like it : D. I need to get one of those rotors too. The stock ones suck (even the late Nissin one on my bike now).

(Message edited by phelan on August 14, 2008)
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott
How do you figure the pads were the real problem when the rotor was .040 off center and the stock one was dead center minus the warp.

The EBC rotor measures .190 thick and the stock was .200.
It should have been centered out of the box no machining required.

Lyndall Golds dropped in my X1 fine.
The pads that I bought with rotor for the S3T are the EBC HH's same as yours.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott
How do you figure the pads were the real problem when the rotor was .040 off center and the stock one was dead center minus the warp.


Because the pucks would have adjusted to the difference the 1st time you squeezed the brakes.

Not saying that that makes it alright, but it probably would have gone permanently unnoticed if the pads had gone in.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reminds me of the Whirring sound from my Hurricane Flow A/C on the 1200S (before it blew up)

You sending me a broke filter!
; )
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL. Actually the A/C I'm sending you is from my S2, which is my second Hurricane Flow. The first was on "Cruel Intentions" before the drive gear shattered through the cases. That hurricane flow only had 300 miles on it and was sold a few months ago. My S2 came with one when I bought it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huh, my EBC went on my S2 practically by itself, no hint of an issue.
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott
In my third paragraph I stated that I rebuilt the caliper.

The pistons were .030 or about a 1/32nd of an inch below flush when I reinstalled it on the lower leg and has no bearing what so ever as far as the pads fitting in the caliper opening itself.

The pistons were not the problem, pads that are to thick are a Quality Control problem.

The rotor offset is an Engineering screw up IMO.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read you posts several time James - I did miss that you are using the same pads as me, but where did I say the pistons were the problem?

We agree that the pads are the problem - yes? and we agree that if the pads had fit, the engineering screw up of the rotor would not have mattered because the pistons would have self adjusted to the situation and the offset probably would have gone unnoticed - yes?

Sorry am I missing something? Maybe even correctly manufactured pads wouldn't have gone in (I think they would have but....)?

I would have returned both to the place of purchase.

I'm sure it doesn't matter either way, but I would rather have my rotor .040 off center than my front tire .040 off center to the left - I'd have trouble sleeping! : ]

(Message edited by scott_in_nh on August 14, 2008)
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