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Sickquad
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2000 M2

So, I just finished moving and the bike has been in warm storage since October. I put the bike away with a full tank of gas and stabilizer in it. Bike ran great when put away.

Now the bike fires right up with the choke all the way out but will not run at all with the choke in. Even if I let it warm up for a while.

I can also feel the choke being pulled in as the bike runs. I have to hold the choke out to keep it fully choked.

Anybody have a suggestion of what to look for to get my bike running again? Could it be something as simple as bad gas? I'm not too sure where to start here.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a carb issue. Take it apart and clean it. Check all the passage ways. Or you can just sell the bike to me!

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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the carburetor cleaning.
Joe
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I second the advice above.

You can hand tighten the retainer thumb-nut (be careful it's plastic and can break) on the choke knob to prevent it from working its way back to closed position.
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Fullauto
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get the family of rats out of the airbox!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always drain the carb on my bikes if they're going to sit for more than a couple weeks. Shut the petcock with the bike running and let it run. When it starts to stumble, rev it a few times and the accel pump will squirt most of the rest out. Keep vroom-vrooming until it totally dies. Park and wait till the next nice day : )

+100 on the cleaning the carb above. I'd bet you have gunk built up in there that needs cleared out. Also, if you can't get the choke to stay put with the thumbnut, I believe the nut on the backside of the bracket is a 5/8". BE CAREFUL, it will break easily if you overtighten.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Primary jets garped up, remove and clear with piano wire or similar jabbing instrument.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or similar jabbing instrument.

I keep a set of cheap-o wally world dental picks in the garage for just that purpose. Also helpful for disassembling deutsch connectors : )
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Buellfighter
Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a clogged pilot jet.
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Sickquad
Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info guys. I'm pulling the carb off now.

I've never had this problem before when stored over a winter. This is actually the first real problem I've ever had with this bike. I guess I was due.
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Sickquad
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That solved it. Slow jet was clogged.

Actually the whole carb seemed to have parts that needed cleaning. Looks like I had a few years of build up in certain spots. I wonder if this is common? I haven't had the carb off since I originally went through the jets back in 02.

Thanks for all the help.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed a marked increase in crap buildup in the last couple years on my bikes, too. Fuel "quality" maybe? More additives? <shrug> My solution is to just ride them more often : )
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CRAP fuels especially if you are running regular. If any of us really knew what we were being sold for fuel we'd preffer AV gas(100octane aviation fuel)except it's 6 dollars a gallon. It does not garp up your carb.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JFF
Avgas 100 octane has lead in it and will kill the o2 right now!
for carbed bikes its ok however they too will suffer from some lead fowling

If you can run regular in your bike you are lucky, I have never run any thing but high test
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Beachbuell
Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the high test only in the bikes! My truck won't even run on regular now with the ethanol crap.
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Sickquad
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always use the hight test, never tried lower octane.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How so "kill the o2"?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O2 sensors react poorly to lead in fuel. The material makeup of the sensor loses its ability to sense and transmit to the computer when there is lead buildup.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, how many tankfulls till a meltdown of o2 sensor?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends on the lead content in the fuel, age of the sensor, brand of the sensor, etc. If it were me, it'd be the tank right before I had to leave for a long trip, lol.
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What indicators should I be looking for, I've run about 5 tankfulls and no codes yet, or should I just replace, and stop using that gas(dammn)?
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