| Author | Message | ||
     Mikej |
Does anyone have the part number handy for the little rubber bumper that nests into the sideplate to keep the sidestand from whacking into the swingarm? Mine fell out on the way in to work this morning and the little heel tab and footer tab managed to lock the kickstand onto the swingarm when I got off the bike. I had to finally sit back on the seat and bounce it a bit before it released and let me put the sidestand down and not be forced to find a wall to lean the bike up against for the day. Just now during lunch I went out and whittled a chunk of pallet board and tie-wrapped it to the kickstand so it acts as a temporary bump stop when the kickstand is up. I'll stop at Suburban on the way home and order a bumper if I can get the part number for it. Otherwise I'm just going to ShoeGoo a makeshift bumper into it. Thanks for any help. | ||
| Mikej |
   g'night  | ||
| Buelltours |
50110-94Y bumper, side stand I hope that is what you are looking for Cornel | ||
| Mikej |
Thanks. I stopped at the local dealership on the way home and picked up a gas cap o-ring (# 62159-94Y) and ordered what they called a sidestand bumper under p/n 50098-96Y. Hopefully it's the same thing. Here's my zip fix to get home with:  | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, Let us know if it works. I need one too! Brad | ||
| Ratbuell |
I pop-riveted a strip of old radiator hose to my sidestand. A little hillbilly, yes...but it fits me to a tee  That, and the updated plates I got from American Sport Bike don't have a place to put a bumper... | ||
| Onahog |
I got a new one from Buell, as they are still available, but ya no what, they are the same thing Corbin uses on the bottom of seat bases for bumping against the frame etc and not ur paint....Go Figure Eh! Hb | ||
| Mikej |
50098-96Y, Bumper, Sidestand Came in today. Threaded post sticking out of a half-dome rubber bumper with a slotted screwdriver recess in the top. This tells me I'm going to have a little issue removing the remaining bits from the old one since I'd monkey-fixed it in the past by gluing a temporary bumper in there. I had no idea it was threaded. Going to have to take the Dremel tool to it a bit to carve my way down to the threaded post and then hope it comes out intact from the sideplate. Going to have to wait a bit though due to other projects in the queue ahead of it. I'll post a pic when I get around to it.  (imagelinked from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93 /RoundTuit.jpg) | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Thanks for the update Mike. You going to any of the Homecoming festivities? It would be great to see you again, it's been a while. Brad | ||
| Mikej |
Finally got around to installing the rubber bumper thingy. Had to get out the dremel tool and used a worn down cutoff wheel to cut a notch into the remnant screwhead that the old bumper was somehow adhered to. Looks like it originally had a phillips recess in it, but was full of the rubber compound so I couldn't get a good bite into it with a screwdriver. So I used used a cutoff wheel that was worn down to about 1/4" diameter to be able to get into the sidestand recess without whacking the sideplate in order to cut that flat bladed screwdriver slot into the screwhead. Once I got a good bite into it then it slowly came right out. Note that I was doing this with the sidestand bolt removed but with the sidestand spring still attached because I couldn't find an easy way to get the sidestand spring off without risk of spewing cut fingers and fluids all over the driveway. By removing the bolt the sidestand pivothead was able to slightly slide a little more out of the way to allow me to get at the old bumper screw head and then to install the new bumper. The new bumper is a bit soft and gives way easily to a screwdriver so it took a bit of a gentle touch to massage it into the threaded hole in the sideplate and then to screw it all the way down. Once I got that done then it was another game of patience and frustration to get the pivot bolt back into the hole and then to get it to pop out of the bottom hole. I did apply a little grease to the pivot bolt shaft, and then I applied some blue locktite to the nylock nut on the bottom side since the nyloc was fairly well non-nylockable. Once everything was back together I noticed that the sidestand pushes slightly against the side of the rubber bumper and looks like it will eventually pry the rubber bumper off of the embeded screw like the previous one did. I think I'm just going to run this one as is and will order another bumper now that I know the part number, then I"ll trim maybe 1/16" to 1/8" off of the diameter of the new bumper before installing it. Or I might try to snake a small wood chisel into the sideplate recess and attempt to chop/trim a little off of the edge of the bumper so the sidestand doesn't continue to press sideways against it. When installed it does seem to be the right bumper as it appears to put the sidestand in a good position while in the up position. Eventually I'll do the magic bend to the sidestand, or will dig back into the archives and find the references to the alternate sidestand that is shorter and more upright and doesn't require any bending. And I have no idea what the trick is to get that sidestand spring off and then back on again. Thinking about it now I might be able to use one of those older drum brake brakespring remover tools, but I'd have to either chop one down and weld/bend and handle on it, or else I'd have to lean the bike waaaaaay over to allow the longer brake tool to be used. Apart from that I have no idea how to easily get that spring off of there without any bloodshed. Oh well, too wordy, but hope it helps someone else. | ||
| Medic24 |
Mike Keep us posted on the alternate sidestand, I would like to try something different also or maybe do the bend mod. | ||
| Mikej |
All I know is that there was supposedly an RS model sidestand that would maybe work. I've asked at my nearest dealership and they put a call in and got back a "not available" response, if I recall correctly. Court might know, but I kind of suspect he's a bit busy currently. This is like the tool I was thinking of chopping down  http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/mst102.jpg But I see that there are already screwdriver handled spring removers which would probably be a better option  http://www.denlorstools.com/shop/images/AP-7848.jp g  http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/BTSO10.jpg I might have to run down to my local NAPA store to see what they have. | ||
| Court |
No knowledge of an alternate. Mine has been modified with the "Wilson Bend". | ||
| Ratbuell |
American Sport Bike may have the replacement sideplates again, soon. I spoke with the gentleman who makes them at Homecoming and he said he's working on securing a new shop to fabricate them. I run them on my S2 and love 'em - virtually identical to OEM but they allow (safe!) use of an S1/X1/M2/S3 sidestand. And I only take up one parking space now. I know...it's not a tripod any more  | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Rat, Those side plates were beautiful! I also talked to the guy, he asked me if I thought it was worh doing a run of the. He informed me that the aluminum plate (60-61) for the two sides cost $375 or so! He asked how many I thought would sell if he had a run done. I told him that I would take one set for sure and there were probably about 5 or 6 quick sells via BWB or American Sport Bike (I think he would go through American Sport Bike (I hope anyway)). The shop that did the original units lost the CNC program so he has to have new tool maps made up. He was also going to make a slight change to add a kick stand bumber. Brad | ||
| F_skinner |
Brad, I am with you on that one and would snag a set as well... It is either that or get a Tee Shirt for the 26th Anniversary that says "S2 Thunderbolt - Born to Lean" I think that was the first thing I notices about Rats bike. Hey, this thing don't lean enough!!!! Frank | ||
| Mikej |
Is the raw material $375, or is that the price for the final product? I can't see the bare plate being that price unless it's a big sheet of it. But then it's been a long time since I've bought any sheet stock for anything. I assume he's buying it 2" thick to allow him to machine down the sidestand boss/pocket. Anyone have a pic of the replacement plates? I don't see them on Al's asb pages currently. | ||
| Mikej |
Found the thread with Al's pics in it: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=47623&post=470398#POST470398   And 1313's pics   | ||
| Djkaplan |
That S2 most certainly belongs to Mike Powell (Buellish). 1313 (BB) posted the pics, though. I see that bike a couple times a year. | ||
| Ratbuell |
$375 is likely the material cost. I was talking with our machine shop about duplicating them for sale, until I met the guy at HC and he said he was working on another run. At any rate, our machinist estimated 350-400 in material before machine time / programming time. Worth every penny to me though, just because I know my bike won't be laying on its saddlebag when I come outside. | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Mike, the cost was for the aluminum only! Yikes, better start saving my beer cans.... Brad | ||
| S2pengy |
To get back to the orginal bumpers ... This is what I use, found them at a hardware store along with the windshield and body inserts... They are slightly longer but can be trimmed down and come without a screw. They have held up well one has been on the bike for 9 years...  |
