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Onahog
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

KBS 3 part cycle tank sealer kit worked well on My RS1200 tank....Thx Hotrats for the link to the product...Hankb
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Hotrats
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cool....
my experience with it was fairly painless.
thanks for the tip about the rear brake pads.
andyh
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd be interested in info...got a spare S1W tank I want to get custom painted, and I don't want it to peel (like they like to do...).
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Onahog
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/Tank-Sealers_c_7-1-0.h
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Grancuda
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why would you need to seal a plastic tank? The paint issues are from the adhesion properties of the nylon tank.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what I've read and seen, the bubbling is not an adhesion problem but a fuel vapor venting through plastic problem. The vapor vents, gets caught under the paint, sits there long enough, forms a bubble...off comes paint. If I can keep vapor out of the plastic to begin with, I suspect the paint will last much longer : )
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im not sure it is going to work that way, you shouldnt have problems with bubbling if you do the job correctly and use the listed paint, hardener, reducer, sealer, clearcoat
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Stevem123
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The KBS stuff is stated to be used on metal or fiberglass tanks. Our tanks are not fiberglass but some type of nylon or poly. I'm wondering if it's going to stay put or come loose and foul up the fuel system???
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it issue with the paint peeling off, or the decals? I've only ever seen the decals bubble, and heard that repaints with emblems or airbrushing don't bubble.

True? Not True?
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

factory paint doesnt bubble the decals do, aftermarket paintjobs are know to bubble up
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Koz5150
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got an stock tank at home and the paint is quite bubbled up. It looks like hell and it has never been repainted.
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My factory S1 tank bubbled all over, not just under the decals.

rt
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IIRC the RS and earlier bikes used a fiberglass tank so you guys with the later tube frames can ignore this thread.
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PPG makes the sealer for this type of tank. I saw it on a thread here, Hey Jim you gonna make it to the salt?
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Stevem123
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for that info Jim. I suspected that was the case but didn't really know.

I wish there was a good fix for the poly tanks but I haven't seen anything that has withstood the test of time. Not much will stick to the poly and stay put once fuel vapors gets to it. They all bubble..., some worse than others.

BC Steve
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My spare tank is totally bubbled, it started at the decals and spread over the whole thing.

My replacement (goodwill) tank is starting to show some flex cracking. Still looks good from everywhere but the drivers seat, but I'm tossing around the idea of a mild custom on the spare if I can get it sealed properly. Although a painter friend of mine always stands behind his work, I'm sure if he does it and it bubbles, he'll re-do it...
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