| Author | Message | ||
     Nocompromise |
So, I'm finally getting my crashed Buell back together. I took a forced hiatus from riding until I finished with some job training (finally done!). One of the last issues I have is with the throttle cables. Before I swapped grips the throttle adjusters were at the maximum to keep the cables snug (Mikuni carb). After I swapped to the Torque throttle grip (which looks identical, so I can't see how it makes any difference) I now have too much play in the throttle. I did a search through the archives and couldn't find any more info. I double checked the cable housing on the carb and the cables are still seated correctly. Once the cables are seated on the carb side, I can tell that they are just too long on the throttle side. That little white piece is a PITA to seat correctly, but once I do the throttle has about 20-30 degrees of slack. From what I can tell there is only one way that the white piece will fit, so I don't see how I could've screwed that up. Any help would be greatly appreciated!! I can't wait to get her on the road again! | ||
| Ratbuell |
Did you adjust the idle cable first? IIRC you need to tension that first, to get the grip in the right 'spot', then tension the throttle cable... | ||
| 80rs427 |
I had the same issue when I put traction grips on my '98 S1. I thought I did something wrong when I couldn't get the slack out. After trying everything, I compared the stock grip tube to the traction grip tube and discovered the holes for the cables were spaced differently. I ended up peeling the grips off both tubes and putting the traction grip on my stock tube. I do agree, that white cable routing insert IS a PITA, but with enough patience you can get things back together. If you do swap grips and tubes, be careful with the glue. You don't want any glue near the handlebars on the throttle side. Even a little bit makes the sleeve sticky....DON'T ASK ME HOW I KNOW. | ||
| Nocompromise |
By 'adjust', I assume you mean at the throttle? I don't know of any other adjustment. I've played with both adjusters full loose and full tight. Either way, there is still too much slack. The idle cable definitely has too much. I just don't see how that's possible since it was fine before I swapped the grip/throttle tube...? Basically, because of the Mikuni, both cables were pretty much full 'tight' (adjusters backed all the way out) before I swapped. | ||
| Nocompromise |
John, I typed the above message in response to Joe (Ratbuell) before you posted. You cracked the code!! I just pulled out the old throttle tube and you're right (of course) - the stock tube has the holes spaced differently. So, now my questions are: 1. What is the best technique for removing the traction grip from the tube it comes on? 2. What is the best technique for applying glue to the stock tube to install the traction grip? I assume you mean don't get any glue near the INSIDE of the throttle tube (which would cause it to bind on the handlebar. THANKS a ton!! Like I said, I hate problems that seem to have no solution because they are so simple. Usually it is because one of the basic assumptions is incorrect (in this case I assumed that both tubes were identical because they appeared to be so at first inspection). (Message edited by nocompromise on June 15, 2008) | ||
| 80rs427 |
I did the install about a year ago, so I don't remember exactly. If you aren't trying to save the old grip, carefully slice it to remove it. I think the traction grip will come off without too much drama. As I recall, I used a combination of pulling, pushing, swearing, and twisting to remove the traction grip from its sleeve. That is what I meant about the grip glue. I put a bit on the old sleeve and pushed the traction grip on. A tiny bit of glue ended up down at the very end of the grip. The throttle worked fine until I took it for a ride. That little bit of glue was enough to make the throttle action sticky. I used thinner to remove it with the long q-tip that is included with the traction grips. All is well now. | ||
| Ratbuell |
If you're removing the grip from the tube, put a slash-cut end on a WD-40 straw and slide it between the tube and grip in a couple different places and spritz some oil in there. Should help with the pulling and reduce the cursing, lol. Use carb cleaner inside the grip after it's off to get all the lube residue out. Or, use some of the snot glue that came with the grips to glue the grip to the tube...but DON'T install it for 24 hours if you do that, to make sure the glue is dry and can be chipped out of the tube if it dribbles. Must be a tuber thing...I just put a set of these on my Uly and didn't have a single issue. Maybe the XB grips have the "other" spacing from the factory... | ||
| Rich |
It's the spacing all right. I put those grips on my old Busa a couple years ago, and it did the opposite, made it faster, like a 1/4 turn. | ||
| Nocompromise |
Thanks for the tips Joe and John! The WD-40 worked like a charm (used that before on grips, but it made a world of difference). I used grip glue to attach the Traction grip to the stock throttle tube. It was a BEAR to get it on! I am a pretty big guy and I lift weights regularly, but I almost blew a gasket getting the grip all the way on.  Now I just need to let it dry to try it out! | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
Does the X1 suffer this problem!!!! Someone tell me for sure, im about to install some traction grips on mine.  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Pull your throttle side switch housing off and look at the cable ferrule spacing, and compare it to your traction grip. Should be easy enough to spot. Now that you know the fix....all you have to do at that point is decide if you have the time to mess with it right then, or if you want to wait till later to fight with it  Nocomp...glad it worked out. Hope you never have to take that grip off the throttle tube, lol. | ||
| Mmmi_grad |
UMMMMM so these are sold as a upgrade ready to bolt right on but that is not the case???? Im going to go read the instruction sheet. Still would like confirmation on the install for X1. |
