| Author | Message | ||
     Locksmith |
Hi everyone sorry if this is a long post but trying to give all the facts. I normally read the sections here but don't often post but i have a slight problem. Normally I have a friendly Harley mechanic who works on my M2 (2000 registration)but unfortunately he has relocated so i decided it was time to start working on my own bike (normally used to working on cars). I decided to change the outer primary gasket as it had a slight leak and that was where the problems started. Firstly the gear shift lever snapped as it came off the splines and once i had the outer casing off the primary chain tension was broken (well better to find that now rather than on the road) So I have replaced the gasket and the tensioner and the shift lever. The problem is that i can select 1st 2nd and possibly 3rd gears but I do not appear to be able to get 4th or 5th. All these gears select easily and the clutch bites as it should but the gear lever will not move up into the top two gears almost the same feeling as you get if you try to shift above top gear i.e a solid lever. I have checked the primary chain tension it appears correct and I have set the clutch adjustment as per the manual so I am out of Ideas and would appreciate any help. Finally yes working on your own buell is addictive. | ||
| Rde48 |
Sounds like your detent plate needs adjusted. That will require removing the clutch hub to adjust it. | ||
| F_skinner |
Locksmith, did you have 4th and 5th before you took off the primary cover? Rde48 is correct in that it sounds like a detent plate and that is an easy fix. What do you mean when you say the primary chain tensioner was broken? If it was broken into plastic pieces I would bet money that a piece got wedged behind your clutch basket. Regardless you will have to pull the clutch basket and drive sprocket off to check. It is a lot easier than it sounds.... Let us know what you find Frank | ||
| Ratbuell |
Is it doing this while riding, or just sitting there on the bench post-assembly? None of my bikes will change more than one or two gears with the engine off. The transmission needs rotation from the engine in order to engage more than one or two gears from any location. If you're static-testing it and afraid something may be broken, you can pull your spark plugs and turn the engine with the rear wheel, and see if that gives you access to all gears. | ||
| Locksmith |
Thanks guys Yes I did have all gears before removing the primary case I will have a look at the detent plate tomorrow. F_Skinner thank you for the idea but I am 99% sure I got all the pieces of the old tensioner out, so I dont think that is the problem but I will check to make sure. Ratbuell I was trying this while riding and the first 3 gears were shifting easily. I will let you know what I find after having another look | ||
| Creature_x1 |
I second the tensioner piece theory. When mine broke, I lost 1st, 4th and 5th. Piece was wedged between detent plate and housing. Look at you trans plate/ trap door as well. Mine broke around the same time as the tensioner shoe. | ||
| Bad_karma |
Michael I'm with Justin on this one. When the primary shoe failed on my S1 it was lock out of anything above first. Pulled the tranny and the plastic pieces had fount their way into the tranny. Pull it out clean it and close inspection should do you. Joe | ||
| Locksmith |
Hi Guys Well the bike is sorted, I think in the end it was a case of the inept, the wierd and the what the hell. I stripped the case back off to look inside and there were no problems of debris from the broken tensioner or any damage to the denet plate or gearbox trap door. Upon re-assymbly I still had the problem that 1st and 2nd were fine, 3rd a bit tough to get and no 4th 5th,I rang my friendly mechanic who said is the linkage catching, upon looking yes the gear lever was just catching the case, moving the lever around a couple of splines 1,2,3 easy to get. But no 4,5th, so in accordance with Ratbuell (see posting) about not been able to get 4 and 5 with the engine off. I decided to take it for a run. Two hours later trying to set the clutch position in accordance with the manual and either no engagement or always engaged. I decided to wind the adjusting screw all the way in and back it off 4 full turns and yes I had a clutch that worked. One ride later the bike is perfect again. So as I said the Inept (Me and the lever in the wrong position) the weird (only been able to get 3 gears with the engine off) and the what the hell (trying to set the clutch to the position in the manual). But thanks for all the help and advice and if anyone could explain why I could only get the first 3 gears with the engine off I would appreciate it. | ||
| Oldog |
the dogs that catch the mating gears were nose to nose preventing movement, you must rock the bike to shift it if it is not running/being ridden. YMMV | ||
| Fullauto |
I love it when people learn to do things themselves. I don't want to put mechanics (parts replacers) out of business but the personal satisfaction of doing things yourself is fantastic. Well done. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I had a similar thing happen to me on my KLX250 when I was 16. I thought I had lost my tranny since all I could do was shift it into first gear. After an embarrassing amount of time, I finally saw that the shift lever had been bent a bit to touch the engine when shifting up. | ||
| Jos51700 |
"I love it when people learn to do things themselves. I don't want to put mechanics (parts replacers) out of business but the personal satisfaction of doing things yourself is fantastic. Well done." +1 It is extremely satisfying to fix it yourself. Besides, people that try to fix it themselves and fail will always keep mechanics in business. Fixing others' mistakes is 75% of what I do! I'm all for the expansion of knowledge. There will always be more motorcycles than I can fix, anyway. |
