| Author | Message | ||
     Dnchevyman |
I have always wondered where the timing was set at on my x1. in the manual it shows the use of a breakout box to set the timing which i dont have a breakout box. can ya set timing another way? | ||
| Akbuell |
Hopefully, someone else can chime in, but go to the ECM connector, and loosen the rubber plug on the harness side, so you can get at the backside of the pins. Then the timing can be checked w/a multimeter. Just don't remember which 2 wires you use. My wiring diagram may not match your harness. | ||
| Dnchevyman |
cool. thats how it shows in the manual, but using the breakout box. so im not 100% sure on what wires to use,. | ||
| Jos51700 |
You can do the backouts, the circuit needs completeness, and has to be functional to set the timing this way. This is what the breakout box does, it allows your to check circuits while they're complete. An easier way? Disconnect the timing connector (You'll have to hunt for it) and run 3 substitute wires. Strip a short section from the two mentioned in the book (I don't remember the colors) and tap into those, while they connect the two connector halves. Then use your meter to set your timing. You can also use a timing light and look through the window while the motor's running to set timing. Wear a showercap. Now, if you're a card-carrying toolbox owner, you can call your local Harley dealer, and buy both connector halves and pins and sockets, and make a plug-in timing-harness breakout setup. Way cheaper than the HD breakout box, to be sure. If your X1's timing is off, set it straight up in the window (Advancing it will not make more power, it makes it run so poorly though the midrange, that when it comes out of the flat spot, it feels like it's really strong, because it's just coming back to life). (Message edited by jos51700 on May 05, 2008) | ||
| Jos51700 |
The PITA of this job, is finding out how to roll the motor over. If you have two jackstands and some rebar or something, you can run it through the back axle and prop it up in the stands to get the wheel in the air, and put it in 5th gear. (Pulling spark plugs makes it way easier to roll the motor over by hand.) Then you can roll the motor over easily. It's important to be on the correct cylinder, and also that the mark trips the light/meter as it's in forward motion (You'll notice there's a lash delay if you stop past the mark and go backwards). | ||
| Dnchevyman |
whats the timing connector you are talking about? are you talking about the ignition pickup? Cant i just probe the to wires at the connector? | ||
| Jos51700 |
Yes, it's a three wire connector from the "Pickup" (Actually it's a trigger, that breaks a voltage). Usually under the starter or front pulley cover. Probing wires will get you the signal, and is also the root cause of about a third of electrical issues. Typically, either the wiring sheath or watertight connector is damaged, resulting in corrosion, poor running conditions, and tow bills. Do what you will, but it really is a way better practice to breakout instead of back-probe. Plus you can brag that you have (what the pro's use) a breakout harness, in your box, and you'll soon be on your way to being the neighborhood go-to guy for your professional repair methods, and the long-term reliability of your bikes! | ||
| Jos51700 |
And honestly, if you're worried about your timing, you've got a better big-picture grasp than most! | ||
| Blake |
It's also WAY easier to access the ECM than it is the connectors on the sensor. I mean WAY easier. Thanks Jos. | ||
| Jos51700 |
"It's also WAY easier to access the ECM than it is the connectors on the sensor. I mean WAY easier. " This is true on a stock harness routing. I pull mine out and reroute them so I can reach the plugs easier, if I'm there. A person can (And I have) also pull the appropriate wires out of the ECM connector and make breakouts from there. I LOVE the breakout boxes. I just don't have a gold brick laying around to cash in for them. |
