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Rde48
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just had a local guy who does shocks rebuild my shock on my 99 S3. I put it on the bike and I am using the manual to set it up. So I start by setting the preload. I have my gf help as per the manual but I dont have enough preload and that with me solo. Do you think it is possible that when the shock was put back together they did not preload it enough? I have the preload all the way out and the bike still sags lower then it should. Any insight as to what may be wrong would be great. Right now with full preload it sags about a 1/4 inch to low. Thanks
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Bad_karma
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ryan
Did you get a spring to match your weight? Can you adjust for static sag? Just a guess, talk with the guy that did your shock, maybe you could bring the bike to him and have it setup for you.
Joe

(Message edited by bad_karma on May 02, 2008)
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Langperf
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I have the preload all the way out" is a confusing statement. You know to increase preload you tighten up on the spring adjustment bolts...right
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Rde48
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just had it rebuilt, dident change the spring. Last year I rode 2up and changed the preload for that and for solo riding so I know it worked. Now I tried to set it up for me and it sags to much, I can adjust it but with it fully preloaded, no threads showing at the rear, it is still sagging close to 2 inches from fully unloaded (per the manual should be between 1 1/4 and 1 3/4). I did take the bike over there and he did set up the compression and rebound but said he didn't know why it wasn't preloading enough. Do you think he could have put it back together wrong or without enough preset preload?
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Loki
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I can adjust it but with it fully preloaded, no threads showing at the rear"


No threads showing on the body? That tells me the preload is set to its bare minimum. The more preload that is set, the more threads that will be exposed. At least with the Showas I have.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No threads showing on the body? That tells me the preload is set to its bare minimum.

I don't agree. Shortening the shock by having few/no threads showing compresses the spring in the can and raises the back of the bike = maximum preload.
Lengthening the shock with many threads showing allows the spring to be longer inside the can and lowers the back of the bike = less preload.
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Rde48
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Scott, That is what I have found also.

Shock

In this pic my "can" is screwed all the way to the left giving me full preload, I did test and if I go the other way it drops the back of the bike even lower, so i am 100% that I am doing it correctly. Before having is rebuilt I would adjust it every time my girlfriend rode with me and had no problems getting the proper sag. I was hoping someone here could tell me that they can be put together wrong so that I would have some ammunition when I take it back to this guy again and tell him to fix it. Do you think I would be better off calling Buell and asking this question?
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Hugie03flhr
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds like your rebuild guy missed a bushing or a spacer. I woundn't ride that bike until you verify that shock is rebuilt correctly IMO
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you think I would be better off calling Buell and asking this question?


No!
I cannot imagine anything but the wrong spring being put back in that would cause this.
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Rde48
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any way to tell if it is the stock spring? I wondered about a spacer myself but he said that there was no way. If I have to buy a spring, I hope I don't but if that is the only way i can fix the problem I will, What should I look for?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take it back to the guy who rebuilt it. Obviously, a spacer must have been left out or assembled in the wrong sequence. Never had the spring cannister off a Showa, but there has to be some kind of base for the spring to rest on the damper body itself. Sounds like something doesn't gibe.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps something silly like he put the spring in backwards?
Perhaps the spring is supposed to seat a certain way?
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