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Limitedx1
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on the shifter side of the bike--should the top and rear most side case bolt be contacting the frame? also my question is getting to a rear swingarm isolator question because i guess these could have something to do with it. what actually holds the back of the frame and tail up? it almost seems that the motor cantilevers off the frame and the tail end of the bike cantilevers off the motor. also my rear isolators are torn up a bit, does that mean they are bad? should the swingarm bolt line up with the frame holes, or be slightly above the holes?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The bolt is offset to the rear in the frame hole, but it sounds like your isolators are toast and need to be replaced.
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Limitedx1
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any hints on the transmission bolt touching the frame as well? it almost seems as if my whole rear end is sitting too low, battery tray is about resting on the motor. if not weighing on it, is this normal, or will the isolators hold that back up?
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The service manual is the best tool in the box!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ANY tear makes them dead.
Even tiny ones you can't see.
At least replacing them is easy-ish on our X1s
The hardest part for me was finding the last tiebar in the back.
It's hidden under the hugger fender.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ronald
I would recommended you replace the swing arm bushings and front motor mount. The motor and swing arm are an assembly that attached to the frame only at those three points, except for the lateral links. You are going to be surprised at how well it handles when you replace/upgrade these isolators. Check out the rear shock for leaks. You are told not to remove the mount bolt for the front isolator but I would get replacement bolts and replace those bolts.
Joe
I second the factory service manual.


(Message edited by bad_karma on April 29, 2008)
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Limitedx1
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

already replaced the front motor mount bolts, i guess i can just take the vertical bolt out of the isoltator and throw a new one in there. as for the rear iso's, the left side one is shot beyond shot, i should take a pic so you guys can laugh. finally noticed it yesterday replacing my speedo sensor.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not safe to drive it like that.
you have two half bikes in the same general area.
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Jos51700
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"ANY tear makes them dead. "

Not quite true. There is a spot on the inside of the isolator, towards the the rear, that tears a tiny bit (Actually, it gets cut), and is considered normal.

It's a note in Bulletin B-016B.
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Jos51700
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And aforementioned Bulletin covers isolator installation without the cost of a S/M.

(It's FREE in the Knowledge Vault)
(THANKS BADWEB!!)
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When mine failed, the tears were tiny and hidden when it was still in the bike.
My only indication was the vibes!
A smart Buell tech at sheldon's lifted up on the rear end of the bike and the vibes went away for a very short period of time : )
It was a cute diagnostic trick.
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Limitedx1
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok im still confused? what holds the tail section of my bike up? and most importantly is the rear of my tranny case around the starter area supposed to be touching the battery tray?

also could somebody give a very brief quick rundown of replacement procedure for an x1
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your isolators are toast. I'd be sure to check the swingarm roller bearings (not sure what BK means by "bushings", I may be forgetting something), but if they are okay, I'd not replace them.

The rear frame is supported by the engine/transmission/swingarm-mounting-block assembly through the rear isolators.
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