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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, on the way to work this morning, my clutch cable popped... again...
At 60(51+shipping form Al) bux a pop, its not THAT expensive, but, its not cheep either...

Has anyone here used that hyrdaulic clutch set-up?

I am thinking, though, while a painfull upfront cost... its probably gonna be cheaper for me in the long run..

Then again, I probably go through these things fast for some reason...

And, before anyone asks, yes, I do keep my cables lubed...

Chase
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Warlizard
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are these braided cables? Hard to believe you are snapping them. Is the cable binding somewhere? I am assuming everything is set correctly? IE; freeplay, chain tension etc. Maybe try Clutchlite or the Mueller. Supposed to reduce effort by 40%, which s/ lighten the strain on the cable. A lot cheaper than hydraulic.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, everything has been good...

Where the cables keep failing, is the ferrule is coming out of the cable.. at the lever end....

No extreme pressure, tension, binding, etc..

And they are the stock replacement cables, not the braided ones...

Chase
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Warlizard
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chase, I just put on an SS clutch cable. Much nicer both in construction and feel. It was about the same price as the vinyl. Takes less effort to shift and is smoother. I am willing to bet one w/ solve your problem. BTW, I got mine outta the Fat Book. http://www.dragspecialties.com/fatbook/3/120/59426 31?q=buell
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I replaced my original clutch cable 3 years ago because it was so old, but it was working fine. The new clutch cable broke within the first year (snapped, not pulled out of the ferrule) and I reused the original one again. I just replaced it with a new cable, but only to be merciful to the original cable... which never did break.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I will look into that clutch cable, and give it a whirl first...

If its that much more effecient, maybe I will get more time out of it...

Chase
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chase,
The cable is breaking at the clutch ferrule because it's bending.
Make sure your clutch lever isn't worn and the ferrule "socket" is lubed.
I use a moly based grease.
I had the problem twice, since then I've made sure to keep the piviot and ferrule lubed and I've not had a problem since.

This is the reason you see the plastic piece on many clutch cable ferrules. Jap bikes have been using that method for many years.

Brad
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Sloppy
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good point Bluz. The cable ferrule is supposed to rotate slightly when the lever is pulled - if it does not it will require the cable to bend instead and will cold work itself and hence break.

It could be combination of things that is causing this so a new clutch lever assembly may be a wise investment as well. Cable clutches have a long proven history of reliable service so I would "assume" the root cause of the problem is not the cable...
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

E-Z lube cable luber$10.00.DennisKirk.com
Panther piss of your choice.
Works wonders.
The one and only cable I ever broke(throttle) was back in 1974 while leading 250 Expert Main on a half mile(Winchester Va.) on the last corner of the last lap.
Coasted to a 5th place finish.
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The FIX(ie: PRODUCT IMPROVEMENT) is to drill a small hole in the top of the clutch lever over the clutch cable end(FERRULE) so it can be "LUBED" !!!
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Dave_02_1200
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LaFayette,

That is the kind of pragmatic down-to-earth advice we need!

I am going to drill mine today so I can lube them from the top, like I do on my old Triumph.

Thank you very much for that one.

Regards,

Dave
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave_02_1200:

The IRONY of most 0f what "i" post was common knowledge 40/50 years ago ???
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Chasespeed
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cable was ordered yesterday, and I am thinking about doing the "fix" to maybe have it last longer...


Chase
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jramsey,
Are you talking about the old TT track in Winchester? If so,I was there. Was a fun track, very fast.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

UPDATE:
I put the new cable in last night. Definate difference in tension, smoothness of operation, etc...

And, looks pretty damn nice too...

thanks for the recommendation...

Chase
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Warlizard
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chase, I figured you w/ like it as I was pretty impressed myself. One of the better ( and cheaper) mods I've made.
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