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Grovskopa
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First of all, Hello!
I just found this forum googling for leaking rear shock.

Seems great so far and I even found a handful of topics about this issue already.

Problem is I am Swedish, so I can't really go to California and have my rear shock fixed...

Anyways.. Was considering to buy a used one on Ebay, but was not sure if any X1 shock will fit?
Or maybe even S1/M2/etc ones would?

Anyways.. Any help would be very appreciated!

Greetings from land of blondes, Mika.
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Grovskopa
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS: I am not only Swedish, I also live in Sweden d'oh ;)
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Torquemonster
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Measure the distance between the mounts. There are a couple different sizes.

Click here...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/476 23/346993.html?1206556767

You could send it to Aftershocks in Cali (palo alto, ca.) to be rebuilt. Although shipping would be high, buying a used shock is a gamble and could end up costing you more.

(Message edited by TORQUEMONSTER on March 26, 2008)
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Grovskopa
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uh huh! I will measure it tomorrow when sun's up again.

I have found a rear shock on a crashed bike for like 10USD
I wonder if I can take parts from it and put on my own to stop the leakage?
Would be nice and cheap =)

And btw, my bike:
http://www.psnz.net/bullen
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome to the BadWeB Mika.

I recommend an upgrade to an aftermarket shock. The improvement to ride quality and handling is significant. Works Performance and Penske each provide good products. Possibly the folks at Hillbilly Motors in Deutchland, one of our sponsors, can point you in another more easily obtainable shock solution there in Europe.

Jens of HillBilly Motors is top notch, so you'll be in good hands dealing with him.

Don't tell him I said that though. joker

Blake

PS: Nice custom paint job on your X1.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome to the badweb!

The one catch with the OEM shocks is, they are not user-rebuildable. If you are going to buy a used shock from somewhere (or even a new one), I'd recommend either a Works Performance, or a Penske. Both of those shocks are not only light-years ahead of the OEM Showas in terms of performance, but they are user-rebuildable with standard tools and access to a speed shop (or understanding dentist) with a Nitrogen filling station.

Used Works or Penske shocks can be had from time to time for a very reasonable price, and being rebuildable it is not as much of a "buyer beware" situation; new Works are priced comparably to a new OEM Showa. New Penskes can run upwards of what some folks pay for their bikes...but they are one of the best, bar none. It all depends on what you are going to do with the bike and how you plan to ride it. I bought a used Penske for my S1W because when I ride it, I'm riding it hard. Every time. My S2 just got a new Works; the original was leaking, and dollars to dollars I decided to go with the rebuildable unit instead of another OEM shock. I wasn't as worried about max handling performance on the S2 (although the Works really is worlds better than the OEM), that bike is just a commuter...but I didn't want to have to buy another shock ever again. Seals and bushings? Sure...but never another shock.

I also firmly believe a Tuber only looks right with an exposed rear spring : )
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Grovskopa
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks mates I am contacting Hillbilly for a Works shock then! =)
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Grovskopa
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Question:

I found a used rear shock here in Sweden! I can get it real cheap and quick.
Prob is his eye to eye measure is 370mm (14.6 in), and the one that is mounted on mine is 430mm (16.9 in). Can I use the shorter one on mine? I am aware it will change the height of my bike but is it actually possible?

And how come his bike was same model and year as mine and still shock is different?!
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was 2 different lenght shocks...

There are also 2 different fron mounting arms... With the shorter shock you need the longer arm, and vice versa...

Should be pretty easy to aquire.. .well, given your location, maybe not... but, a dealer should be able to order it for you, allowing you to use the shock your buddy has..

Chase
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Grovskopa
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh OK! So I get the shorter one and order... What? =) "Rear Shock Mounting Arm"?
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Chasespeed
Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty much, I will see if I can find the right part# for ya.. but, no promises. Hopefully someone can back that up with a P/N

Chase
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Grovskopa
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks a lot!
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Grovskopa
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will this 1999 OEM shock fit mine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&item=290216883174

It has same:ish eye to eye
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yep. But, see that eye and hows it shaped? That's the junk shock... the eye is weak(IIRC)

The newer shock, has a different shape @ the eye... much beefier...


Chase
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Grovskopa
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uh huh! Does my OEM have beefier eye you mean?
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does the eye look the same? or is it sqaured off?

Chase
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Grovskopa
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it looks the same, I will go and check on bike soon.
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Warlizard
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have the old Showa, you may be able to get something done through Buell. I also have a 2K X1 and Buell replaced mine just last year at no charge. I w/ at least call their customer service and run your VIN.
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Grovskopa
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow really? Will do will do!!
I do have the old showa
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have a 99 and buell customer service said "so solly"!just last week...im going with the works... i bought works for my v-rod and went thru hell with their customer service..i swore id never deal with them again, but i guess my choices are limited considering the price...
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Rellim51
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The recall kit has been discontinued, so even it customer service agrees to fix it, no parts are avail.
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Jos51700
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This should clarify. Both are currently on eBay.



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Jos51700
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The very strong one is the latest and greatest Buell piece, and is also the short one, thus requiring the different arm, as illustrated.

They seem to not fail as often, also.
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Warlizard
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe the kit itself isn't available, but I am pretty sure all of the parts/pieces in the kit are. I had mine done 8 months ago, hard to believe I got the last one. Buell has to have something. If I went to dealership w/ a broken shock and asked them to fix it, what w/ they do? If you qualify for the recall I am sure they will find the shock. Now if you are trying to purchase one, you may be SOL. Then again who w/ pay for the Showa? I can't wait to lose mine for the Penske.
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Warlizard
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sporttwin actually has the entire kit. They want 600$ for it though. Be crazy to pay that, Works is about the same price. I also remember AST makes a shock, which was more than the Works but less than the Penske. They are made in Holland and may be cheaper for you. It looked to be a quality item. I was thinking about one, but with the dollar weak, the Penske is now cheaper for me.
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Grovskopa
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great suggestions from everyone!!

I just bought this cheap as hell (about 20 dollars):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1 &item=140218428318&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004

I know it is shit but I will probably suffice for some months til I get a new Works one.

Question: can I put my gas canister from my existing oil leaking rear shock (identical model) on this one? Because this Ebay one lacks the gas canister
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Grovskopa
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Warlizzy: AST?
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Bott
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that shock came that way (no canister) its just like the one on my 2000 m2. If it doesnt leak, you will be fine with it just the way it is....
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Jos51700
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See "Danger" image above, and compare to your shock.

Then compare that to the "very strong" image.

Will it break on you? Probably not.

Do I want to be within 20 miles of you when you're riding with that shock? Definitely not!
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Warlizard
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the AST. http://www.adrenalinmoto.co.uk/prods/29.html
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