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Silas_clone
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those darn torx screws won't budge. Broke a bit and then used my trusty old school impact tool and twisted another.

I had the cover off many times before and I don't use loc-tite.

I am envisioning my "scary" loose primary chain peening the ends of those screws so they will never budge.

I set the slack 3/4" and rode about 3k.

Could the chain have enough side play to hit the ends of those screws?
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no, virtually impossible!
soak them good! Some bits are made of crap apparently (I've broken some too, but not there)...
On 2nd thought, those are allen aren't they? Try a real allen wrench. Load, unload, load, unload until it cooperates!



(Message edited by scott_in_nh on January 07, 2008)
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Guell
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

most people switch to allen bolts. I ended up having to slot out the tops of mine and using a big fat #3 flat head screw driver to get them out.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sometimes if you try to tighten it first it can be just enough to brake it lose. if all else fails, drill off the head and once you get the plate off it will either come out easy or you can at least put a pair of vice grips on it. good luck
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Numb_nutz
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try a quality bit first. I use snap on titanium they seen to work the best. They won't break that easy. I use them on a air impact all the time. Drilling the heads off as Neil said will work well also.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are they allen heads?
Geez, I can't see anymore
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Tripp
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they should be torx
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those can be real tough due to the design of the cover.
Are they all tight like that?
I was able to get mine off after taking off the other three, the last one was finger tight!
The cover acts like a lever if you tighten down one side and then the other.
You have to be really careful to tighten the screws in by hand before applying any torque.

I killed two craftsman folding torx tools before I found a socket that works at consumer auto parts.

I guess craftsman tools have gone downhill badly in recent years?
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Silas,
are you talking about the two-screw primary chain inspection cover, or the four-screw clutch inspection cover?
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Blakers
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is torx. Make sure that you have the right size.
(forgive me for going only by memory here, I don't have my manual at work}
The screw actually requires a T27. Most kits have a T25 and it does fit, but not exactly right and is prone to breaking if you push it too hard.


Blakers
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good thinking Mikej (like the name btw). Dealership stripped out my inspection cover screws once, they were allen. Derby cover is torx.
And to clarify, this is on a '99 X1, who knows maybe different models/years have different fasteners.
But back to the point, my inspection cover screws were TAF. Had to end up drilling them out.
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Silas_clone
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just went to Shelton's in Durham and Shane straightened me out
Mine are 5/32 allen socket heads.
The new screws have blue loc-tite.
I just removed the new screws with the proper tool.
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Milesvdustin
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey. I cannot say anything good about Snap-on tools. I work on Hueys and Cobras in the Marine Corps, and I have broken just about everything except for the box wrenches and sockets. Screwdrivers, apex's, socket wrench handles, allen keys, and many other tools have snapped under the pressure. At least I dont pay for them hehehe
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