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Whosbeenfartin
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike came from the PO with no sidestand switch (wires jumpered) and no clutch switch, (wires jumpered and patch cable missing).

The question is why do this?

I have put at least 150000 miles on 2 wheels and never had parts like these fail. Is this a common falure in buell's?

I would like to at least have the side stand switch in place, if these fail is there a newer (more reliable) one that can be used to replace it, perhaps from an XB?

Thanks
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a case where the bandaid solution is quick and simple. Many have had issues with the sidestand switch since it hangs down there in the road grime region, fewer have seemingly had issues with the clutch switch. Put one back on there and see how it goes, easy enough to bypass again if it goes bad while you're out riding.
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think it's all that common a failure, nor is it that difficult to remedy should it occur. Some folks would rather be proactive because of a perceived failure rate, or a general dislike of safety interlocks.

Mine are still in place...
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Chasespeed
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a finicky side stand switch...

Going over some rough roads, sneezing, accelerating, the wind blowing, etc...

Would cause the bike to shut down..

Found it to be the switch....

Replaced...

Same problem happened again...

Shorted the wires...

2 years later...

I have NEVER tried to take off with my side stand down... so..*

My clutch switch quit about 1 year and a half ago... never bothered with it...

Chase
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I removed the entire safety circuit from my wiring harness.

Although there's been a couple times I could've used it!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I have NEVER tried to take off with my side stand down... so.."

Neither did I until a few years after I disabled my safety switch. The little rubber thing on the end of the kickstand did it's job (a back-up Plan B!) and got the sidestand up at speed, but it scared me. I had considered cutting the bracket for the rubber thing off the kickstand for a cleaner look, but I'm leaving it on. And I'm replacing that rubber thing if it ever wears out.

I'd replace that clutch switch, too. As soon as you say, "I would never stand beside my bike and hit the starter with the transmission engaged so it could potentially take off without me", believe me, it might happen. It almost happened to me. Thankfully, the engine didn't catch but the bike was coming off the sidestand and I caught it just in time.

I fixed the clutch switch after that...right away.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one more datapoint: my kickstand switch lasted 42000 miles.
When I took it off, it was full of water : )
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Bluzm2
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My side stand switch failed at about 6000 miles.
My friends at about 12000
Leave it jumped and save the headache.
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Chasespeed
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

, "I would never stand beside my bike and hit the starter with the transmission engaged so it could potentially take off without me"

Funny, mine wont start unless its in Neutral..

If its in gear, I need to pull the clutch.. but, the switch is bad, so..

Chase}
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had monkeys frig with my '79 sportster so many times that I don't bother to start it until I'm on it and verify that it's in neutral.

I don't know what it was about that ironhead.
'Tards would be on it like a junglegym flooding my engine with the accelerator pump, putting it in random gears, adjusting the mirrors randomly.

Usually, I wouldn't catch them at it.

My Buell never got that type of attention for some reason. (not that I'm complaining!)
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Chasespeed
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Usually, I wouldn't catch them at it.

Only caught someone once...

Needless to say... I doubt he will jack with anyone else's bike...

Something about a helmet to the side of the head....

Chase}
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Bad_karma
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Colin
Reading the XB board I understand that Buell has done away with the side stand switch, that speaks for it self. Both my side stand switches failed before 20K. I however know that I'm getting old and keep a spare clutch and brake switch in the tank bags. Electrical problems are the weak link in the buell.
KISS(Keep it simple sir)
Joe
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i take it that the cluch switch is so you can start the motor with it in gear with the clutch pulled? if so mine is shot.
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Fasted
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you have ever killed the lump at a stoplight in heavy traffic, you might appreciate the ability to clutch it, start it, and ride off.
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Mgownr
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 02 X1 has never had a problem with either switch. The only one I want to short is on my levarda. it will not fire or run with out the stand being up. Makes trying to jump start the bike by yourself an interesting concept...
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Sloppy
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2000 and never had a sidestand switch failure, however...

I did have problems with my clutch switch. So I opened it, cleaned the contacts with an eraser, swiped a little di-electric grease on it and put some RTV around the seam. Never had a problem since! And I ride year round, rain, mud and shine.

I wish my Kawasaki was as reliable as the Buell... hmmm, maybe that's why I sold the Kawi... talk about an electrical nightmare!!!
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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I replaced the stand switch 2x then bypassed it, I replaced the clutch switch and realized that the lever bushing was worn out I have to "Pick up" on the lever to engage the switch
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