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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi, does anyone know if there are overhaul kits (O rings etc) available for the solenoid operated fuel taps on these bikes please?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That may be a Court question. I can't find the RS/RSS series in parts lookup, and we don't have any books in the shop for 'em either. Sorry : (
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can get the info. You may need to be a bit patient as I am under 3 coincident major deadlines . . . 4 if you include my youngest sons wedding.

A couple of years ago, for the TEAM ELVES Bonneville pursuit we needed to rebuild a couple of the solenoid and increase the size. Aaron has all the contact info.

I'll see what I can find.

Court
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ratbuell and Court. No rush for this, but while the tank is off and has no fuel in it over winter, it makes a lot of sense to overhaul them both. The taps were dripping a little gas when I took the tank off a few weeks ago. I dare not strip them down in case I cannot get the bits to reassemble them again!

Court, if you are too pushed for time, please let me know and I'll mail Aaron directly and ask. Thanks.
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Smoke
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would like the same info steve when you get it for my 92 rs. reserve inop.
thx,
tim
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know the solenoids were still available a couple years ago as I bought a couple for running in fuel class and never used em.I think I still have one--
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Tim, FMJ.

Tim, I've just put a new rocker switch on the bike, the old one was bad, maybe check that? The rocker switch can be bought from any auto parts store. Whatever I find out it will be posted here for sure. Cheers.
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you can order new ones from Buell. Go thru Kim, Erik's admin. She can get those to you, thru EFB Designs, I believe. Old buell parts they maintain in a closet somewhere. or they can direct you to the rigth spot. rex
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup.Found one in tool box at shop.it's yours if you need it.
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Basti
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Old School Guys :-)
The RR's and RS's use 12VDC solenoid valves. They're made by Precision Dynamics. Factory ones are B-series, part number B2017-BB-BI-GV. That means 3/16 orifice, 1/8" npt fittings, brass body, bottom inlet, gasoline valve.
Best wishes from Germany
Basti
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rex, FMJ, Basti, thanks.

If anyone needs to replace a tap that isn't working, then they need the one from FMJ more than I do.

Mine are both working, just dripping a little gas. I'll see if I can track down the guys Basti mentioned first off to see if I can get an overhaul kit. Thanks a lot guys.
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Woo Hoo! I'll let you all know if these guys get back to me-

http://www.predyne.com/

Thanks!
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the information on fuel tap reconditioning-

Steve, The basic parts you will need to fix that valve are a plunger, spring, and o-ring. The part numbers are:

103-200-20-38 Plunger List $11.50

110-001-20-01 Spring Included in price of plunger

115-001-00-16 O-ring List $.80ea

We have a $100 min order if you order direct, so in your case is may be best to buy through our UK facility, and you can contact them at

Gems Sensors Ltd.

Lennox Road
Basingstoke, Hants.
United Kingdom
RG22 4AW
Phone: (44) 1256-320244
Fax: (44) 1256-473680
Email: sales@gems-sensors.co.uk
Website: www.gems-sensors.co.uk

Best Regards,

Chris Olmstead

Product Specialist



If we can get enough interest in these to get a $100 order together, then it's the best way to order these and divi them up? I need enough for 2 taps. Otherwise I'll see if the UK distributors will sell them to me. (I'll probably have a £100 minimum order value if I do this.)

Steve.
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Smoke
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i will take 2 sets if you order.
tim
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Buelltours
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would take one also should you order.
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does Buell still have any? Might save a bunch of screwing around, at least for US folks, if you can get them from Buell. Call Buell and ask for Tom Anglim. Leave him a message and he will get back to you,

I haven't dealt with this in a long while but the last time I checked they had a box full.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are no rebuild parts at Buell but I just spoke to TA and there are complete solenoid assemblies. He didn't recall the price but was thinking they were on the order of $100 each.
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dave and Court.

OK, so that's 3 orders for total of 5 sets. Any more? So far that's about $60 worth. Could anybody order from the US please? If I order from the UK, they'll cross the Atlantic to here and then I'll have to post them back to you again. If somebody can order then I'll Paypal my $'s over anytime you like. Thanks.
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Hotrats
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

steve,
count me in for 2 sets.
i'll email you tomorrow. i don't mind doing the ordering and distribution.
anyone want stainless button head hex bolts to replace the phillips head bodywork bolts on their RS/RSS?
what about some teflon washers to go under them? what about stainless hex head to replace the front master cylinder phillip head screws?
i'm thinking about ordering some thru work
andyh
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Andy. I have replied to your mail. Being real anal about this I want to keep the original screws in the bodywork. Sad, I know.

I could use some PTFE washers though, the ones I have are "tired".
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Buelltours
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

same here - thanks but no thanks for the bolts. I would like to keep her as original as possible. Teflon washers? Yeah! If you organize the deal, Andy, perfect! Just let me know how much and where to paypal.
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are these the units under discussion?
The ones in the photo were on the stock 91 RS bodywork that I sold to Bart (midwest B'webber) a while back.

Had I known those pups were a C-note per piece - I'd have charged more for the parts! (just kiddin' Bart)


RS solenoids
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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al:

Can you e-mail me the high res of that and a photo of the rocker switch on the body?

Court
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Photos are on the way.
No switch photo available.
AL
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocker switch picture sent.
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Hotrats
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,
I'll check at work tomorrow to see if we do business w/Predyne. if so, probably can get a discount.
So, no hex head body bolts.... no prob. would anyone be interested in phillips head replacements? I think the bolts come in box of 100 - more than enough to last me a lifetime. I'll get the order out this week.
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Smoke
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would be interested in the phillips head screws if they are the same as stock. i have used home depot screws and have been using some helicopter teflon washers at $27 per 100. let me know where to send the money for the kits.
thanks,
tim
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries Andy, please let me know how much and where to send the $. Really appreciate the help. Thanks.
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Hotrats
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sent info to predyne, awaiting answer. will let you know in this thread.
still checking on phillips body bolts & teflon washers
andyh
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Steveshakeshaft
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Andy, let me know when you want some $ sending please.
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