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Dj_engine
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dropped my X1 off at Bartel's for TPS reset and some miscellaneous things.. The tech said the bike looked familiar, so he pulled the VIN up on their computer. Sure enough, at 3900 miles it was in for crash repair. Handlebars, tank cover, turn signal. Nothing major, he said.

I guess my question is, should I be concerned? The rumor is that the tubers crash well, but what situations would I get into during the course of normal riding that would make a repaired tuber unsafe?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the bike is tracking straight and doesn't wobble... I'd say it's okay. Handlebars, tank cover and turn signals is pretty light damage and typical for a minor lowside.

"The rumor is that the tubers crash well..."

Except for the fact that the primary pipes and air intake can get trashed on the right side; they do crash kinda good.

I'm on my third paint job...
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Fasted
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you didn't notice anything before the revelation, there is probably nothing going on.

"never dropped or down" is highly overrated, except for appearances and/or expense.

sounds like the bike had cosmetic damage, not structural alteration. i currently ride a "totalled" moto that i crashed, bought back as salvage and repaired at home. ($4500 worth of cosmetic damage)because the insurance companies will not repair, only replace.

then i had another "problem" , less extensive, that i also repaired at home by myself.

my m2 crashes, recovers and rides great. you have nothing to worry about. if you do crash or drop, you will experience the joy of easy repair and copious amounts of available used and new parts. this forum is the obvious place to start for remediation.

enjoy !!!
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Mikef5000
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good to know! I hate how the headers hit the ground first if you drop it on the right side. I set mine down in my driveway once going 1/2 mph (and this is the first time I've told anyone) and you'd never know if it weren't for the little scratches in the header.

American Sport Bike sells the sliders too.
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Dj_engine
Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, not too worried then. It tracks straight, I think, and the only wobble that happens is in a curve when I forget to relax the death grip on the bars. It gets a little light on the freeway above 80 or so, but that's usually aerodynamic more than anything else. If I get it back and it behaves itself between 1800-3300rpm, I'll be happy.

As always, thanks for the info! This place rocks!
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Mwellm
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The good news is if the dealership fixed it they are required to check all safety related items specifically the frame. Once they touch it after any accident they have liability. I doubt you have any issues; these bikes can take a good amount of punishment.
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Brokeneck
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to ride something that will not be laid down try a trike. The law of gravity usually wins -- sounds like minor damage and if you loved it before you knew then -- no harm no foul --
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nobody is confessing to crashing they're tuber? Ohhh yeah, tuber guys dont "crash". We demo bikes.
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Torquemonster
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll fess up.

35mph + roadhog rednecks + unseen stump = 2 inch crack in tailsection and slightly bent handlebars.

2 minutes of roadside mechanics and I was off to finish the ride.
The look on the crotch rocketeers faces (disbelief) was priceless.
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Bad_karma
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out the crash section. My S3 twice and the S1 once. Two out of three above 60 mph. Generally turn signals, bar ends and shifter on the left side. On the right header and breather. Every time I was able to pick it up and ride off. The ugly part was the bags on the S3.
Joe
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i saw a guy back a few years ago drop his bike during battletrax, break and bend a couple things and still walk away with the win. they can take alot of punishment opposed to a full fairinged repli racer.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck... I've had two lowsides and one highside on my M2. I've dropped it standing still or barely moving countless times. Once, when I was visiting my parents house, I dropped my bike into my mom's rose bushes trying waddle it between her car and the edge of the driveway. Glad I had my gear on for that one.
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Jc000
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in the same situation, the previous owner had dropped my bike as well. Unfortunately, it did something to the shifter, I've had problems with leaking where the shifter goes into the primary cover.

At my 5000 mile service, they told me they would have to replace the primary gasket(?) to stop the leaking, and of course since it had been dropped it's not covered by my warranty. I'd like to do it myself but I think it's a little too ambitious for my skills, even with the manual.

So just my experience on the possible results of a left side drop. Still been running sweet and true otherwise.
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have yet to crash my X1. Have had lots of experience with gravity and its effects on my other bikes. Just getting over a broken foot I high sided a GSXR at 55. Was wondering why nobody had said they'd been in one with a tuber. Nice to know it wont hurt much. (did not mean to put anyone on the spot)
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Oldbiker
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can someone 'splain me what the difference is between a highsider and a lowsider......i'm old....and only know vertical= good, horizontal=no good.

Steve
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Dj_engine
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lowside is when the back wheel slides out in front of you and you lay the bike down on the side opposite the direction of the skid.. the low side. A highside is when you fishtail the other way and the brutality of physics pitches you over the bike in the direction of the skid and flips your bike over on to the high side. Highsides tend to inflict the most damage, since the bike might bounce a few times before coming to rest. On the Biker.
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I flew threw the air into a bean field ditch. Flipped the X1, most of the force went down onto the rear seat and sub frame. Didnt hurt the front end or the frame. I built eveything back up , cant even tell it had been wrecked.
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Oldbiker
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Dj_.....guess i gotta feel lucky.....i've only felt the effect of lowsiders.....ALOT!!!

Steve
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"A highside is when you fishtail the other way and the brutality of physics pitches you over the bike in the direction of the skid and flips your bike over on to the high side."

Geez... it's like you were there.

I remember someone years ago saying he would 'heel hook' the bike if he felt himself highsiding. When it happened to me, it was so sudden, the abrasions I got on my Vanson were on top of the sleeves, not at the elbows. I went face first into the pavement so fast, it wasn't until I woke up that I realized what happened.

"Just getting over a broken foot I high sided a GSXR at 55."

Yeah, I broke my foot too. Not even sure how that happened.
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