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Warlizard
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have done numerous upgrades and am considering adding a coil. Is it worth it? I am leaning toward Crane or maybe SE. Thanx
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Firemanjim
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not really,unless you are boosting or using nitrous where a stronger spark is needed you won't see any difference.
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Buellistic
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Warlizard:

Want to HOP-UP your stock IGNITION ???

Make sure you coil and plug wires are CLEAN !!!

ADJUST YOUR SPARKPLUGS TO 0.030 GAP !!!

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Sparky
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are running a high performance engine and not stock, you need a high output coil. But don't stop there. A high performance ignition system needs low resistance, EMI safe spark plug wires and spark plugs that will deliver a high amperage spark and not erode prematurely.

Ideally you want to present a high amperage, long duration spark over a large gap unshrouded to the combustion chamber. Unfortunately most stock ignition systems do not meet these conditions. Conventional stock and even high performance spark plugs have a ground electrode which resembles a finger which reaches out and covers (shrouds) the positive electrode. There are different solutions to overcome this design problem. Ring ground electrode spark plugs (Torque Master) do away with a "finger" ground electrode.

Conventional ignition systems depend on the decaying magnetic field in a spark coil (transformer) to produce a spark. But there are electronic multi-spark discharge ignition systems (MSD) which extend the duration of the spark event per cycle to ensure complete combustion.

My personal choice is SE coil, Jacobs Energy Core spark plug wires, and Torque Master spark plugs. Why? Even though my 96 S1 is mostly stock, it always fires and doesn't foul plugs. I've kept the same spark plugs for over 47k miles because their unique design, field effect spark gap of 0.120", ring ground electrode, doesn't wear like ordinary spark plugs and they still seem to deliver the same snappy throttle response as when first installed.

The longevity of Torque Masters seems like it would be a natural to run them in a Firebolt, which has sort of accessibility problems to the spark plugs. So, I've been running them in my '03 XB9R with no problems in 42k miles, albeit with stock coil and plug wires. I once changed the plug wires to the '04 version though, which has better insulator sealing. YMMV, cheers.
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Warlizard
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 03:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am currently running the Buell Pro-Series plugs and wires. I also have race ECM,Supertrapp IDS and Forcewinder. I have had no firing/fouling issues. Bike is running strong. BTW, I have a 2K X1. Another ? I had is what can I do to increase throttle response? It seems to take an un usual amount of twist to pull hard. I have to exaggerate my wrist as far forward as I can to throttle w/out re-gripping. Is this normal? Is there something like a Thunderslide for EFI's? Thanx
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