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Rum_runner
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to start bike couple weeks ago. Wouldn't fire put battery charger on fired right up. Charged battery for awhile went to start it would fire just made clicking noise. Put back on charger back on bike fired right up. Went and bought new battery today. Put in bike wouldn't fire same noise as befor clicking noise sound like starter. I don't have the charger at my house im betting though if i put it on it'll fire. Checked all connections they al seem fine any ideas on what it is.
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Creature_x1
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

May need a starter seleniod rebuild kit. The clicking noise is the relay, it could be faulty as well. And as always, check for loose battery connections.
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A voltmeter can be a good friend at this point. The fully charged battery will be about 12.7v. When trying to start it will drop down into the 10v range. If it drops much more the battery is bad. If the starter just clicks check the voltage when trying to start right at the starter. If it is way low you have a bad connection or a bad wire between the battery and the starter. It could be either the positive or the ground where you have the problem.
Once it starts the voltage at the battery should be 13.9v or a little higher (at faster than idle rpm).
I try to clean all of my battery and wires to the starter every year. It saves lots of issues that way.
Depending on the current of the charger that you are using it may be providing jsut that little extra oomph needed to start it. You shouldn't use more than a 2amp charger for any duration on these batteries. If you hear the battery bubling when the charger is on it you are giving it too much current (and seriously shortening its life).
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Bad_karma
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure that you get a good charge on the batteries.
Joe
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Xldevil
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a similar issue a short while ago.
I changed to Hawker and wanted to make everything right,means I cleaned all cables and connecting points.
The stud at the solenoid, where the positive main cable from the battery is mounted, was very corroded under the rubber cover.It needed some force to get the holding nut loose.
I didn't realized that I twisted the stud by loosening.
Inside the solenoid housing one of the two main contacts sits on that stud as well.So,by twisting the bolt,I twisted that contact too!
It took me two days to find out what went wrong.


2

the contact that has been twisted is marked by the red arrow
Ralph




(Message edited by xldevil on April 24, 2007)
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Sloppy
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note that "new" batteries at the store are rarely fully charged. Also, unless you get a proper charger, you won't fully charge your battery.

If you don't have a Battery Tender, get one. It will pay for itself in battery replacement costs -- it likely could have recovered your old battery.

This, of course, is assuming that you have a bad battery. Check the Voltage post above.
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Rum_runner
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well i think i figured out whats wrong. I think its the starter. Put a new battery in wouldn't start click, click, click is all i got. Put charger on it fired right up. took it for a ride shut it off. Started right back up. shut it down waited couple hours fired right back up. Waited 24 hours hit it click, click, let off hit it again fired up. Didn't touch it for a week. Yesterday went to take it for a ride went to fire it up click, click, click grabbed hammer tapped on starter while trying to start two light tapps with hammer and fired right up. So you guys think i might have a flat spot on starter or could it be something else.
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Sloppy
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are still describing the symptoms of not enough current to the starter motor (even with the hammer tap). I'd still confirm that it's not the battery as it's cheap and quick to do and you should already have the tools anyways. And if you don't, a voltmeter sure is more useful than a hammer when working on a bike... : )

In terms of probability, for 1000 battery faults there's one starter fault...

Have you tested the voltage across the battery and starter yet? Do you have a charger designed for the AH rating of the motorcycle battery, i.e., less than 1.8A.
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