| Author | Message | ||
     Brimfldboy |
I'll start off by saying that I am a newly registered long time consultant of this site, and have finally got to the point where I need some advice. First of all, recently, (I'm blaming it on the cold) my rear shock seemed to lose all of its damping ability while leaking black oil profusely for about 4 days. I took it to the dealer and, it appears that recall service was already performed on it. Basically I don't have alot of money around to sink into the bike, so I was wondering what some of you guys have done in the past when the rear shock goes south. A new shock is almost out of the question as the dealer wants 529 bucks for a new one, and aftermarkets seem really pricy too. Im a beginning rider, so I dont need super performance right off the bat. Also, I have a racing stripe edition with sweet PM wheels and a race ecm and pipe. It would look badass with a harley style or force style intake. Once again it seems like the intake and those trim pieces would add up to like 600 bucks. Can you get away without the carbon fiber pieces from american sportbike ($299) and still have the bike look good? Also, I was wondering if it would be possible to use a harley intake system for a 2000 fuel injected sportster...I'm thinking a basic harley one may be cheaper? I am not sure if they have the right temp sensor mounting point and breather feedback. You badweather guys rock, I have gotten tons of info off just reading threads over the last year Ive had my bike. Keep it real and I look forward to hearing any advice you guys have! Bryan | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
Bryan, The shock can become a dangerous thing, be careful. With very little funds, I would post an add in the classifieds(looking for) and see what pops up, also watch ebay(but I would trust the people on this site) can't say that about everybody on ebay.If push came to shove, I would rather ride the bike with a strut than a bad shock,IMO. For a cheap aircleaner that will work(and I'm not saying better) most of the "Screaming Eagle" set-ups will work with a little modification. The round cover with the flat backing plate(you may need to add a hole for the sensor)  Charlie | ||
| Cyclonecharlie |
Bryan, There is a stock shock for a M2 in the classifieds, same basic shock as an X1 shock.....Charlie  | ||
| Oldog |
you don't need the injector version of the Force winder, toss the aluminum breather bolts and use the stockers or a set of banjo bolts, asb has them. | ||
| Ducxl |
I like the stock X1 air box,and feel it appears best. Shocks are serviceable just like forks aren't they? Contact "GMD Computrack" for the service(cheaper than replacement) possibility. | ||
| Oldog |
Shocks are serviceable just like forks aren't they? No not realy look close at the remote resivour you should find a decal warning against disassembling the unit, there are no parts listed in the parts book for it, a couple suspension shops will work on them. what I gather from comments Duc is that the repairs do not hold up well. IIRC M2NC had one redone with Fair results, I believe that FMJ had one re-done as well dont recall, I think that he has a shop that does his LSR work do it. } | ||
| Ulywife |
Actually I looked into having M2nc's shock rebuilt. I also posted in the classifieds here. Luckily enough for us, someone responded that they had a shock from a '99 M2 that they had removed for race purposes. For $120 we had a "new" shock in really good shape delivered to our door. As Cyclonecharlie said, there is one listed in the classifieds. I'd go that route if you can. We too were not interested in $500+ for a new shock. | ||
| Brimfldboy |
Thanks for the advice friends  Ive found a few removed shocks, but was wondering if the 16.5 inch long one will work on an X1...I think some of the aftermarkets are even shorter (~13 in). Also, could you explain a little more clearly about being able to use a non-injector intake? I was always under the impression that you need a IAT hole in addition to the breather feedback lines (or a catch can) for a fuel injected bike. I was thinking about checking out some of the screamin eagle intakes to see if they might work, but am sonering if I am just making too much work for myself. Thanks again, you guys rock! Bryan | ||
| Oldog |
Bryan I attempted to post several pics, use the carbed sporty kit it works fine 1. you can secure the IAT sensor under the sock,( like I did) OR 2. you can buy the FI filter which has a hole to put the IAT sensor in and pop it in there, the second hole is for a breather setup, your sled will start drooling spooge on the header / ground etc, if you use it. the FW aluminum elbow is the same for either kit the kit also gets some aluminum bits dont waste your time with the aluminum breather bolts unless you want to practice removal of broken bolts they are soft and will break when tightened to hold the intake bracket, the best thing to do with the crank vents is to catch the spooge and dump the air over board or just dump the lot over board. American Sport Bike I think picked up the breather bolts they are available from Custom Chrome about 50$ for the set ( these are banjo bolts ) you can use the stockers too PM Djkaplan he did a clean stock hose install on his cyclone using the stock parts on a FW carb install. there are basicaly 3 length interations on the shock IIRC the shortest is ROUGHLY 14 5/8" long eye to eye you do not want the earlier[ OR LONGER ] shocks they are take offs from safety recalls and your mounts wont fit them to the bike correctly. American Sport Bike has a pic of the shocks with length info, I got soooo lucky and found a cyclone shock new on e-bay, watch there and as others have suggested the classifieds. PM me I have Ol' Blue apart and a few snaps of the area can be done if you want. One last thing get the FSM well worth the money spent.. from the desk at work the Ol' Dog | ||
| Brimfldboy |
Thanks again! I'm currently hoping to win a bid on a new recall kit shock on ebay. If not I am going to go with a lightly used one which I shall search for until it gets nice out. I just had a few clarifications to ask of you on the air intake assembly: Are you saying to not use a breather setup that feeds back into the air intake? Do the harley setups have a breather/feedback type, or should I just go with a carb setup, engineer the IAT in the backplate somewhere, and have a catch can for the oil splooge? Also, how does the bike look without having those tank accents on it when you have an aftermarket intake? The ones from Am. Sportbike seem rediculously priced (almost as much as a whole intake setup) and it seems like it would make sense for another company to make a painted plastic version. If you have any pics of some different types of setups, they would be much appreciated. Bryan | ||
| Djkaplan |
"PM Djkaplan he did a clean stock hose install on his cyclone using the stock parts on a FW carb install." There isn't much to the breather lines I fabricated. I just took the various lengths of preformed hose and spliced them so they routed cleanly to the catch-can. Every preformed hose I used was either stock or came with the Forcewinder. If you click my profile, you can see how I routed the breather lines from the stock hollow breather bolts. I used lots of zip-ties to keep it together and it worked fine (I use XB rocker covers now, so the profile pic is all I have to show of my old set-up). There are a number of ways to route the lines, this is just one of them. | ||
| Oldog |
to clarify Bryan: 1. no dont run the breather in to the intake 2. the American Sport Bike parts are of good quality I have serveral archived posts about e-bay CF every one who has the parts that AL makes likes them, IMO its worth the money, I have CF trim from e-bay horrid fit.   I removed the braided cover hoses and went to black, the FW was powder coated SemiGloss Black the cover only you can try for your self the little ears look funny.  these e-bay covers are a little short and were a dickens to fit. | ||
| Brimfldboy |
I just won a bid for a brand new showa recall shock replacement kit for my bike this morning. The K1400.C one that I believe is the correct replacement for the X1. I payed $319 for it, which sure beats the nearly 600 that my dealer wanted for just the part. The shock looks a little different than the one that is currently in use (one with the safety bracket up front) and I was wondering if I will have to get a new front mounting bracket to install it correctly? Hopefully this wont be too big of an ordeal, I just envision using an engine hoist (with some heavily padded straps) to hold up the tail of the bike while I unbolt the old one and slide the new one in. Could someone give me a heads up if i just got myself involved in something alot more difficult than I imagined? Sometimes it seems that E-bitch can do some good for a fellow. Bryan | ||
| Oldog |
If you got the "KIT" I "THINK" that it is complete, an engine hoist is the perfered method, another is to use jack stands under the passenger foot rests. remove the old one and check the Eye to Eye length the should be the same or extremely close. a big allen wrench and a open end for the hex nut, socket up front, misc small tools for the resivour clamps and misc, NBD, | ||
| Vic60 |
Bryan, I to bid on that shock but it sounds like i did not need it as bad as you, i have a 99 x1 that is ever so much weeping. would like to hear how easy or hard it went with the k1400c replacement. thanks Vic | ||
| Duckbuell |
My brother got a Works Performance shock for his X-1 and its great, not a bad price about $500, with fast delivery. Makes huge difference to the ride quality. I would not waste money on a Buell factory, or rebuilt stock shock. | ||
| Oldog |
Hey Duc? did he e-bay it? I wish I could score one! | ||
| Kyrocket |
Same problem with my shock. Started feeling "mushy" at 19k. I bought one on e-bay with supposedly 6k miles on it for $68 delivered. It doesn't look bad but I have yet to put it on. My neighbor runs a garage and has offered his cherry picker to hoist it up. Would like to know how others have gone about this process. But I agree these aftermarkets are waaay too expensive, especially while trying to raise three kids! | ||
| 89rs1200 |
Hey fellas! Don't buy the stock shock unless you are short on money. They are NOT rebuildable and will fail within a few thousand miles. I believe it is the fault of the can over the spring. Dirt gets in and can't get out. Therefore the dirt destroys the seals. Buy a Works, or better yet the Penske. http://americansportbike.com/ I have 4 S3's with several versions of Works and Penske with over 80,000 miles on the lot. The Works and Penske can be revalved and resprung to your weight by the factory at VERY reasonable prices. Well worth the money if you intend to keep your tuber for more than 5000 miles. The Works is cheaper but quite good and both will improve your ride dramatically. P.S. Two lengths of shocks on the tuber Buells. 16.5" for all 1989-1998. 14.8" for all 1999-2001 and the recall kit which came with a new front shock mount. (Message edited by 89rs1200 on February 07, 2007) | ||
| Djkaplan |
"The Works and Penske can be revalved and resprung to your weight by the factory at VERY reasonable prices." I called Penske to see how much a rebuild would cost. It's only $90 + shipping. They also said it was easy enough to rebuild myself, I'd just need a source of compressed nitrogen and a way to meter it correctly. I'll just let Penske do it when the time comes. On a side note, I also ordered their spring preload tool. It's just short bent steel rod... the shipping cost more than the tool itself. Delivered to my door for less than $14. |
